Worst pick of draft

Discussion in 'NFL Talk' started by CrawDaddy, Apr 29, 2006.

  1. CrawDaddy

    CrawDaddy New Member

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    We are only 3 picks into the 2006 NFL Draft and we already have the worst pick in this year. Vince Young!!!

    I know this won't be a popular post but I truly believe this will be the bust of 2006.

    The Titans need a QB now and it is evident that Young is a project. And I believe a project that will not work out!! Only time will tell, but I am saving this post to disk just so I can say, "I told you so" later on!!!!
     
  2. AwShucks

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    But all the analyst stated that Young would be a work in progress... he is not slated to start in the next few years... they will still use McNair. I am an OU fan, and I'm here to tell you that Vince Young will make his mark in pro football. As all OU fans are prone to say... "Sexas Tucks", but that don't mean VY does.
     

  3. slimepig

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    what pisses me off is the commercialism of todays game! I mean reggie bush has never played 1 down of pro football, and today i see he already has a tv commercial!
     
  4. AwShucks

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    So does Lienart...but what's the point... if I had their talent believe me, I'd be hiring someone to fish for me lol. They were fortunate and blessed to have the talents they have displayed on the football field. Possibly both of them should have shined their off field talents/behaviors more than they did. As to which college ball player is best... the test is still out on that... probably have to go back to the days of Doc Blanchard to find one as good...oh, well, I need to get ready to dream of fishing...football can wait another 3 1/2 months.
     
  5. CrawDaddy

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    All I can say about Young is that I hope he likes his new coaching staff in 3-4 years because the guys that picked him won't be around to see if he'll live up to his hype. And hype is all it is, because he will be a bust. I compare him to Vick who, despite popular belief hasn't even came close to what they expected of him. Any QB that has the leading rushing team in the NFL in 2 years and has the numbers of Vick, is a overhyped NFL QB.
     
  6. SkiMax

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    Well first off, it looks like McNair is going to baltimore. And we, the bengals, signed anthony wright so it looks like VY might get thrown behind center alot sooner than anyone said he should have. I think Billick knows he is about out the door in Baltimore and is making desperate acts to try to get a winning team back together. I feel sorry for VY though. Has the potential just not the right mechanics to be thrown right into a starting job.

    Second, I can imagine Reggie Bush is THRILLED the Texans passed on him. He went to the Saints, one of the best upcoming teams. With Drew Brees throwing it will take some of the pressure off of Reggie. And plus with that O-line the Texans have (allowed 68 sacks last year, that's an average of 4.25 a game) I would hate to be a rookie, even one with the talent of reggie bush, lining up before the snap and looking down the throat of the d-lineman. Knowing they are gonna get to you before the line of scrimmage and ur gonna have no holes to run through.
     
  7. CrawDaddy

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    I live in Baton Rouge LA. The consensus here is that they are excited about having Reggie, but they are also worried the Saints will screw him up. The Saints have a long history of having good players and not utilizing them to their ability, i.e. Jake Delhomme :)
     
  8. The J-Man!

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    The Titans will regret not taking Lienart i believe. He is a great quarterback. Young is good also, but only time will tell if he is an NFL quarterback.

    Arizona will benefit greatly from the teams ahead of them passing on Lienart. That offense is stocked!!
     
  9. nuthinlikeacat

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    I think it was great to see Leinart drop down as far as he did. I agree with a lot of the analyists that he ISNT that great, he was just around a supporting cast that made him look great. He may end up being a better than average QB, or he may end up being a bust like highly sought after Qbs in the past....Ryan Leaf, Ken Dorsey...ect. He doesnt have a great arm, has limited mobility, and their have been questions about his will to play. He does however have the ability to step in and play right away.

    I'm a bush fan, and I think Bush would have been a bust in Houston. He has potential to be a great back for many years, but look at some highly sought after Rbs in the draft years ago who went to crappy teams who had no help for him. R Williams to the Saints, L Phillips to the Rams, Kijana Carter, T Wheatley...the list goes on. By Houston taking who they did, they are almost guaranteed help right away, not to mention the career span of their draft pick tends to be longer than that of a rb.

    Young at number 3...still unsure about that one. He's a Vick in the making....
    Too much of a risk for a #3 pick in my mind.

    Although I don't like Green Bay, I still cant believe they passed on Leinart. Everyone knows this is Favres last year. I know they have a lot of faith in their draft pick from a year ago, but why not take Leinart? Let them battle it out for the starting job, and trade the person who doesnt get the job.
     
  10. catman872

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    Vince Young is indeed the "bust" of the draft. I cant stand these "vick type" QB's. I would pick a QB based on his arm not his legs. But then again i dont think there were any QB's in the draft that are going to be GREAT NFL QB's.
    Reggie Bush is an exciting player no question but someone said he will be better than Barry Sanders...ahahahaha no offence but Bush couldnt hold Barrys jock strap. I think at some point he will be one of the top 5 backs in the league however......hes like a poor mans marshall faulk.
     
  11. Pennsylvaniacatchaser

    Pennsylvaniacatchaser Well-Known Member

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    Buffalo pulled off 2 first round shockers! They used the 8th pick to select Ohio State safety Donte Whitner, a projected late 1st rounder and used the 26th pick to select N.C. State defensive tackle John McCargo, a projected 3rd rounder. Marv Levy the 80 year old GM making some questionable decisions!
     
  12. AwShucks

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    I guess that we as a society find it easy to make judgements. I don't ever remember hearing anything bad or shady about Tony Dorset, Earl Campbell, Quentin Griffin, and a slew of other backs which were very, very good. But we tend to put the guy on the pedestal which maybe should be regulated to the basement. Some of these "great" backs are as crooked as a snake...not into football for the love of the game, but for what they can get out of it...free rent, under the table money. Bush may indeed be a great football player, but I don't think I will ever be able to recognize him as great, just dishonest. His ego has hurt So Cal - and to an OU fan, So Cal ranks nearly as high up there as Texas. But Bush may do them in. How can he be "great".
     
  13. loanwizard

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    I am kind of surprised at the Vince Young down talk. I watched him the second game of 05 when in the 4th qtr he took his team on his shoulders and killed my Buckeyes. I watched the game of a lifetime (Even better than OSU Miami, or USC Notre Dame) when he again did it to USC with Leinhart and Bush playing on the same team, not to mention Lendale White. This young man has a definite "it" factor. The way I look at it, yes Leinart does have a better pure arm, much like Carson Palmer. That said, anytime you add an extra factor such as Youngs legs, you have a definite advantage. You disrupt the normal blitz package, freeze a man at the line which opens your passing lanes, make the pro form option a dual or triple threat. My prediction is that Vince Young will be the next in a long line of storied quarterbacks like Marino, Staubach, Bradshaw, Manning, Elway, Farve, etc... He may not have the perfect set of tools, but he has "it", that indomitable will, the drive and will to succeed. Guys I think the coaches and GMs know it too. I predict that Vince Young will get his team to the playoffs very quickly.
     
  14. Mr. Whiskers

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    This years draft was pretty interesting. I'm not sure about Vince Young myself, or about Matt Leinart either. I'm still not sold on Michael Vick, talented yes, will he win a Super Bowl as the centerpeice of an organization? I doubt it. Vince Young is just the next Vick. Leinart, well he has about 6 seconds a pop to unload the ball in that offense. Not going to have that in Arizona, he'll be lucky to have 4 seconds.

    Who knows, they could both be superstars in the NFL someday, but if they would fizzle out and sputter in the NFL, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.
     
  15. BigCatSteve

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    Everyone thinks Young is so great because he can run and he outran alot of DB's in college,well the NFL DB's are faster than him and will hit him right in the mouth.I heard more than one person say that as just a quarterback he is a middle of the draft selection but because he is so athletic thats why he was picked fourth.well lasttime i checked wasnt he a quarterback?????And if he is mediocre at best like they say is athletisism will only take him so far and in my opinion he will be the BIGGEST QB bust since Ryan Leaf
     
  16. dahoss2002

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    Yeah VY does seem to be "Vicklike" but he also reminds me of a Dallas Cowboy QB from the 70's. I'm ready for the flack. He kinda reminds me of Roger the dodger yes Staubach! He has that "never say die" attitude. And his teamates seem to respond to it as well.He might have more leadership qualities than he's given credit for. As far as Reggie Bush being better than Barry S. It might happen but remember. Sanders played at OK st. when it was the Big 8 and had 200yds+ rushing games against Switzer's Oklahoma and Osborne's Nebraska. Yes, I know Reggie killed Fresno St. while he was at USC. I wonder how ole Reggie woulda done playin for OK St. goin against Nebraska back in the day. He sure didnt do much against Texas! As far as "busts", I think Ricky Williams was a biggun too and I dont think Vince Young will dissapoint as bad as Leaf or Williams.
     
  17. steve-o

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    all this talk of "he's not ready to play NFL ball! you could say the same about all 3 Bush, Leinart, and Young. Bush is somewhat small for an NFL back, Leinart has been carried by a supporting staff, and young plays loose, dangerous football, but the fact is, nobody thought Tom Brady was ready to be the starter. in fact, he came off the bench as a result of an injury. ah, how quickly we forget. well, with that said, the only thing to do is just wait and see.
     
  18. steve-o

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    while i respect Bo Jackson, i don't think you can even consider him before Emmit Smith, not to mention my boy, big Jerome Bettis, and let's not forget about Marshall Faulk!

    i feel that considering Jackson on the basis of what he might have done, is a case of, if /dog /rabbit.
    you know, if the dog hadn't stopped to pee, he would have caught the rabbit.

    i do have to agree with you about Bush, though. he is a little small, and it's easy to be forgotton about in New Orleans, but i think he's the real deal!
     
  19. CrawDaddy

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    Just like any other player entering the NFL, only time will tell the truth!!

    As for Bush, there is are a handful of teams that could screw him up and the Saints are one of those teams. I look for NO to eventually trade either Bush or Macallister. With the salary cap these days you can't afford to have 2 high priced players at one position. If they keep them both then they'll have to sacrifice at other positions which will keep the team from winning, which ultimately will be the guage of Bush. Any other player his status would be based on numbers, but there was SO much talk about how "special" Bush is, so his grading system will be set totally upon wins I think!!
    Young is a project. I am just glad my Cowboys aren't willing to use the 3rd pick on the draft on a project!
     
  20. CrawDaddy

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    Never ceases to amaze me how people won't give Smith the credit he deserves!! With that arguement then Montana shouldn't rank in top 5 because he played with Rice LOL