This is my first year for flats and i started to fish for them because of there size but i cant catch a big one. I fish the mon river in Morgantown WV. I have caught 5 this summer 11lb, 8, 4,4,3. There are big ones in the river and my friend caught a 40lb flat 2 years ago in the same spot on the bank. I use live gills of all sizes and fish from at least 7pm till 4am almost every time. I go at least 3 or 4 times a week.