Below is an attachment of photos of two species of shiners-the common shiner and golden shiner. I can catch plenty of common shiners in a creek that runs through my backyard. The only problem with the common shiners is they are difficult to keep alive during the heat of the late spring and early summer. During the early spring and fall, I don't have that problem especially when I use a 5 gallon minnow bucket with an aereator. Does anyone know a bait shop in East Tennessee or maybe Middle Tennessee to buy the golden shiners? I hear they are much more hardy than a common creek shiner. I can buy a silvery shiner from bait shops around here, but they aren't too hardy either. Most of the bait shop owners say they're never offered golden shiners from bait dealers, but I'm sure they are native to the area, though I've never seen one. Sometimes I use goldfish, but out of curiosity I want to try the golden shiners. They're very common in Florida where bass fishermen use them up to a foot long with balloons for floaters. I'd like to try the goldens for catfish, bass, and stripers. Who knows, it may be illegal to use golden shiners for bait, but I've never seen it mentioned in the TWRA manual.