i been thowin for shad for many moons and i've caught bass, saugeye, crappy, gills, suckers, drums, skipjack, perch, walleye, others i caint think of and BIG carps. and baby versions of all the above. except CARPS! WHAR IS THE BABY CARPS? OR are they born at 5# and grow from there? biggest carp i have netted i estimated at just over 20#.