When is the Shad Kill Over???

Discussion in 'All Catfishing' started by Dreadnaught, Jan 2, 2006.

  1. Dreadnaught

    Dreadnaught New Member

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    I have been told by several fishermen in the area, that right now the blues are gorging themselves on the dieing shad in the river systems. That will make them extremely hard to catch for a while. The only way these guys are catching blues now, is drift fishing about 20ft down with fresh dead shad.

    How long does it go on?
     
  2. DeerHunter01

    DeerHunter01 New Member

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    It takes them about 1 minute to die sometimes less sometimes more, it just depends on the depth of water there in and the pressure .

    :p
     

  3. Dreadnaught

    Dreadnaught New Member

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    A whole minute, HUH?? I would have never thought of that, LOL!!!
     
  4. jtrew

    jtrew New Member

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    The shad are being killed by cold weather. Cold weather kills shad. It will continue to kill shad till it's replaced by warm weather. Seriously, I've been walking around dams trying to rush spring weather and seen windrows of shad that have drifted up against the dam or shore. And those are just the ones than haven't sunk yet.
     
  5. rodpod

    rodpod New Member

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    When do the shad spawn? How come they are so abundant if there is a "shad kill". How come you catch 16"+ shad along with the small ones every year? Is there a percentage of the shad that die?
     
  6. stoney

    stoney New Member

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    jtrew is right the cold weather kills them,the only ones that live re the bigger ones,that has already adapted to the water and weather,a good place to catch blues right now is at the entrances of creeks,thats were they lay and wait for the shad..
     
  7. spoonfish

    spoonfish New Member

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    They will spawn in the spring depending on your area usally April to May at 50 to 70 degrees F. They will brodcast there eggs and the eggs will sink and adhere to the bottom. The females are very prolific and can produce up to 500,000 eggs each. This is why they are so abundant.
     
  8. catfishcentral

    catfishcentral New Member

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    It's kind of like survival of the fittest. Why do some shad stay alive for days in my bait tank while others die off soon after putting them in? There's always some shad that are in better health than others and when the cold weather drops temps the weak one's just die off. It doesn't matter if there young or old but just what condition the shad is in. I was throwing the cast net last week in surface water temps of only 34 degrees. Most of the shad were only in the two to three inch range so size doesn't matter. :p At least in this case.
     
  9. the_nis

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  10. Rainman4u2

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    So, is it safe to use these dead shad after freezing them during the next season???

    Ray
     
  11. Dreadnaught

    Dreadnaught New Member

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    Yes Rainman.

    I know what causes them to die!
    What I wanted to know is how long does it go on in general?
     
  12. Dano

    Dano New Member

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    1 minute. LOL so your good to go.

    I didn't know that about shad.

    I'm guess here but I would think till spring when the water starts warming up.
     
  13. Cattoo

    Cattoo New Member

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    i do not believe we have a winter shad kill in ky. unless we have an extremely brutal winter. from what i have gathered over the years is that generally only happens in the northern states. and according to infishermen, this is the best time to catch them because they are feeding so heavily.
     
  14. ShilohRed

    ShilohRed New Member

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    Here at Pickwick when the water temp gets sround 40 degrees. WE have a shad minnow kill. ITs about 2 weeks then back to normal You will have a few that move into shallow water when a warm spell comes through. then the temps drop over night. Now they will always die.

    PEte
     
  15. slimcat

    slimcat New Member

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    bad3087, yes there is a shad kill. Just go to the misssissippi or the ohio and look for the gulls. they are everywhere plucking dead shad off the top. I have been told this will last a few weeks at the longest just depends. Shad, I have been told by the oldtimers is the best bait this time of the year until the end of January.
     
  16. Rainman4u2

    Rainman4u2 Guest

    Thanks JW. I'm going to net a few the next time we actualy get a freeze up here.

    Ray
     
  17. Dreadnaught

    Dreadnaught New Member

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    Thank you Demetreus, that was exactly what I was looking for!!!
     
  18. BKS72

    BKS72 New Member

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    They're dying here in MO. I was out with my son goofing around acting like I knew what I was doing jiggin for crappie of a dock. Got bored and threw the net in to see what was there and caught 17lbs in 2 throws, probably a 3rd of them were 10" or better. My son got to looking around and was picking up big ones that were about half dead in close to the bank. Kind of took the fun out of fishing, cause if they are schooled up that tight and moving that slow, it's just gonna be dumb luck if a fish hits the one on my hook out of the kabillion that are down there and easy for them to get. Doesn't mean I'm gonna stop, though.... ;) I bet later in the winter, late Feb or early March, after they've eaten most of what's been killed off and are hungry again, it'll be some good fishing, though.
     
  19. Catfish Fever

    Catfish Fever New Member

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    The shad kill, especially if you can locate the bigger ones is a great source for "free" (it's a lot of time consuming messy,stinky work.) shadguts. Around here last year they cost up to $8 a pint. We'll usually put up a dozen pints. I'ts about all you'll catch fish on here on Milford Lake. The lake as frozen and thawed one time this year so far, haven't seen any signs of a kill yet. THe coldes surface water we've been out on is 36deg.
     
  20. catfishcentral

    catfishcentral New Member

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    I think it's hard to put a time on when they stop dying. I think it's mainly depends on how cold a winter you have and how early spring comes to your part of the world. The winter shad kill continues throughout the winter. The weakest and bulk of shad winter kill, die after a couple weeks of sustained cold water temps. They are so dang delicate that until spring temps warm up they will continue to die. I don't know if this answer's this question any better.