I have been trying a bunch of knots with braided and mono like and i can seem to find one that will hold up to my standards. :smile2: I even lick my knots so i wont burn them nor fray them. Usually tieing a 5/0-8/0 gama oct circle or just plane circle. OR just any 5/0+ hook. Anyone have any clue what i should do, use, or improve on my "skills" of knots?:sad2::embarassed::angry::confused2:oooh:.