What Kinda carp is this?

Discussion in 'Carp Fishing' started by drpepper, Jul 17, 2008.

  1. drpepper

    drpepper New Member

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  2. motard1

    motard1 New Member

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    Thats what I call "AN UGLY CARP" Don't really know its proper name.
     

  3. drpepper

    drpepper New Member

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    yeah, but it's a beauty in the beast kinda thing....
     
  4. River_monster91

    River_monster91 New Member

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    i call it bait!!!! actually if you look its just simply a common carp missing most of its scales...i think
     
  5. dano40

    dano40 New Member

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    It's a mirror carp.
     
  6. bnewsom71

    bnewsom71 New Member

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    Its a common carp with just a few scales missing. I have seen that before, but not sure what causes it.
     
  7. drpepper

    drpepper New Member

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    I've gotten an answer from a few carp pro's on this... and the all say it's a "mirror" carp
     
  8. JERMSQUIRM

    JERMSQUIRM New Member

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    i would say leather carp. heres the definitions.

    Noun 1. leather carp - scaleless domestic carp
    Cyprinus carpio, domestic carp - large Old World freshwater bottom-feeding fish introduced into Europe from Asia; inhabits ponds and sluggish streams and often raised for food; introduced into United States where it has become a pest




    Mirror carp are a type of fish commonly found in the United Kingdom and Europe. They can grow in excess of 60lb, with the last few British record fish have all been mirror carp.

    The difference between mirror and common carp is both genetic and visual - biologically they are similar. The mirror carp was the first mutation of common carp, owing to two alternative genes, the S allele and the N allele. The genetic term for a mirror carp is "ssnn" (all minor). Common carp have an even, regular scale pattern, whereas mirrors have irregular and patchy scaling, making many fish unique, and possible to identify by sight, leading to most carp in the UK over 40lb being nicknamed. This lack of scales is widely believed to have been bred in by monks in order to make the fish easier to prepare for the table. The current record (as of Dec 13, 2005) is known as "Two tone" due to its colouring, and is currently around 64lb. The current EU record stands at 88lb (40.188kg), the fish was caught from a lake in Bordeaux, France and is the first in the world to weigh more than 40KG.

    Contrary to popular belief, Leather carp are not Mirror carp without scales; there is a distinct genetic difference. Leather carp are permitted a few scales, however the dorsal row of scales is either absent or incomplete. Leathers also have reduced numbers of red blood cells, slowing growth rates.
     
  9. uttatoo

    uttatoo New Member

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    its official name is (catfisheatitall) or common bait ha ha
     
  10. Bossofbeefbowl

    Bossofbeefbowl New Member

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    I've seen a couple in the pond i carp fish at.It's definitely a mirror carp.I'm in the Chicago burbs and while they're rare I do see them every once in a while.They're actually quite ugly looking compared to the common carp.
     
  11. KSKatter

    KSKatter New Member

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    its a mirror carp, a kind of mutant version of a common
     
  12. NewMexicoCatfisher

    NewMexicoCatfisher New Member

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    It's a mirror carp. Common Carp, Mirror Carp, and Leather Carp are all the same species biologically speaking. It's just like hair color on people all genetics.