I was just wander how many of yall have ever load for a .30-30? This has got to be the hardest load to load for as you will 7 out of 10 time chrush the case in the resizing die. I had a old fellow ask me once "what is the hardest cartridge there is to load for?" I told him the .30-30 and he laughed. He said yep you been around loading a little while. I have not shoot a factory round in any of my weapons in 23 years now. Let me say, I have not bought any factory rounds for any of my weapons. I even load my own shoot shells and have made my own buck shoot. I use to have a 12x12 building with a 200 yard shoting range right out the one window in the building. I could load a round, shoot it, then reload it again and shoot some more. I found out that you can shoot a Remington brass 7 times before they get to weak and start cracking. Man I miss my shooting range.