Veterans Administration

Discussion in 'General Conversation' started by chambers bd, Aug 25, 2007.

  1. chambers bd

    chambers bd New Member

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    HI FOLKS,
    I wanted to say I feel we could all thank our veterans when you can.

    I am currently enrolled in VO REHAB and EMPLOYMENT. Im in my third year as a enviroment science studies. The VA is a joke I called the vo rehab office of atlanta georgia to enform them that I could not buy books because they had not completed their part.This is with 90 days notice. Heres the kicker the director was on vacation Amy Thompson and as I tried to explain I was hung up on 4 times.
    To beat ALL that the operator told me in her best ebonic slang "I dont need all DAT".
    I am looking for a certin decorum when dealing our goverment. I have sent a complaint to our leadership and hope it will be addressed. I am retired from the US ARMY, consider the issues our current vets are getting when addressing them.

    Please consider writting your political leaders to ensure our greatest assets our returning veterans are dealt with in the honor. they served our great country.

    PLEASE

    Thank You

    SFC BRIAN D CHAMBERS Sr
    USA/RET
     
  2. Bubbakat

    Bubbakat New Member

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    This type of treatment to our vets has been going on for years and is worse to day then I can remember. I have constantly been doing flank and maneuver with those clowns since 1968. I don't see no chance for change in the near future either. Good luck with your endeavor with them.
     

  3. AwShucks

    AwShucks New Member

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    One of the things that is wrong with our veteran's treatment is the leadership structure. Civilians who have never spent one day in uniform are running the VA. When the young men were overseas, these fat cats were setting back in government jobs not putting themselves in danger - then they are the ones who supposedly knows what the veteran needs. The second thing wrong, is that if it is not a civilian in charge, it more than likely is a general officer or admiral. They went out of touch with the servicemen and women when they pined on the silver eagle, and the stars just made it worse. These guys made a career out of covering their backsides, that's why they progressed so far. I only know of one General Officer that I truly believed in, and that was BG Joseph Ecopi - one hard a__ but fair officer. We need people running the VA who knows what it was like to be at the bottom of the totem pole... as the saying goes... the stuff runs down hill. The enlisted knows what that stuff is like, and the company grade officers probably can remember...The field grade officer and above should just retire on their war records and not be envolved in benefits for the lower ranks.
     
  4. bootshowl

    bootshowl New Member

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    Well, on a happy note brothers, we didn't get rousted out of D.C. by "I Shall Return" & Patton from our shanty town for not getting the money we were promised for WW1.....hell some of us were killed right there in Washington. At least the vets are getting some good press now. And I'm sure there will be another wall or monument for the middle east vets who didn't have to deal with the V.A.
    Our best support has always been; and always will be for each other. The man on point and at your six....
    God Bless, hope things get better for ya. Sounds like you have a start. Don't give up. I'd hoped to hear it was better for a career vet. Guess not.
     
  5. jtrew

    jtrew New Member

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    I've actually found a method that works pretty well when dealing with the VA. When their incompetence reaches a certain point, I say something like, "I'm tired of you people trying to kill me! I guess I'm gonna have to protect myself by taking y'all out first!" Of course, this immediately gets me a face to face with the psychiatrist. I explain to him that I really don't want to hurt anyone, but that I don't want them to hurt me either. This really gets his attention, and he says something like, "So, you think people want to hurt you?" Now I've got him. The conversation goes,

    "You're a doctor, right?"
    "Yes"
    "So you know that diseases like diabetes or a bad heart are so serious they can kill a person, right?"
    "Of course"
    "So, if a medical person fails to give proper treatment of these diseases, they're deliberately trying to harm the person, right?"
    "You think someone is doing this?"

    Now, I've got someone in a position of authority listening intently to my problems. And I can tell you from experience that after the psychiatrist checks and finds that the problems actually do exist, there will be some changes made immediately. I had a problem that I had been trying to get some help with for six months taken care of in less than an hour, once I had their attention. I also had an apology for my having to go to that extreme to get the treatment to which I was entitled.
     
  6. micus

    micus New Member

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    Dealing with the VA has always been a battle, unfortunately one that has to be fought constantly. The upper administrators are heavily politicized and tend to be in lock step with whoever controls their appointment. The regional leaders are more concerned with turf wars and gaining power within the organization. Below that level I have found a lot of good, caring people but they have bad apples too. When I went through VO rehab I was extremely fortunate that I was in a better run region and had an excellent case officer who did a lot for me but that was in the early 70's. If you haven't yet, contact a Veteran Service Officer for either the VFW or American Legion, they can be invaluable in dealing with VA problems. I gave the VFW my power of attorney in 1970 and they have helped me with many things over the last 37 years. Another thought, today most of the VA rules, etc. can be researched online. Learning the exact criteria for something gives you a leg up on getting it done. I had a VA doctor put it to me once this way:

    There is the right way, the wrong way, the army way, the gov. way but if you want to accomplish anything you have to do it the VA way.

    He rejected my claim saying I hadn't done my homework and even though I had the right things wrong with me I hadn't presented them in the correct order, etc. I did some research and resubmitted and the claim went through.

    Good Luck
     
  7. porboy

    porboy New Member

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    I have never been able to talk to any of them and get anything done and have stopped even trying. From what I have found out it has even been worse starting 10 to 12 years ago.
    Hope that it will get better sometime in the future.
    Bill
     
  8. jason berry

    jason berry New Member

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    I got out of the Marines about 10 months ago and have been going to school and have had many problems with the VA about getting my money but i cant say all are bad some will work for you.
     
  9. chambers bd

    chambers bd New Member

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    HI Folks;
    The VA is a sad fact that should be buried. The boys and girls coming home should be given a good response rather than the crap I have heard was done to veterans.

    The VA is poorly ran if you could call it that. Kinda like balloon payment huh.

    I hope you guys are doing well.
     
  10. H2O Mellon

    H2O Mellon New Member

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    My dad has gotten such GOOD... scratch that, GREAT service from the Dayton, OH VA Medicak Center that is has all but stopped seeing his family (civial) doctor. I can't say good enough things about the Dayton VA.
     
  11. olefin

    olefin New Member

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    I can't complain about VA but all I do is go for a checkup once a year at our local VA clinic. The reason I do that is so I can get my prescriptions from VA. I've never seen a doctor there, I think they have one, all I ever see is a nurse practitioner. I routinely go to a Cardiologist, paid for by Medicare and Blue Cross Blue Shield.

    I took a couple correspondence courses and took some college courses using my GI bill... it all worked out great. Also bought our first house with a GI loan.
     
  12. stickusmc

    stickusmc New Member

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    i havent had any problems yet except for figurin out all the paper work that has to be filled out to get the money i put in for the gi bill. plus some of the people i've had to deal with had no idea. so i went to the reserve base here and got it all taken care of.

    havent had to deal the medical side much yet so cant complain
     
  13. fish

    fish Active Member

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    I wish I could say I had good experences with the VA but that is not the case. The VA here is a joke. I have had a precancerous growth in the corner of my eye. They sent me to another VA clinic, to a Dermatologist and this woman was unreal. She took a biopsy and cauterized it. I also have some questionable places on my chest and back. I saw her before lunch and she told me she didn't have time to check the ones on my back and chest, even though they were on the chart to be checked that day. It tooks months to get the appointment to see this yoyo. We heard nothing back from the VA so we called over and over to right at three months to find out if there was anything to the place on my eye. Finally we got in touch the nurse and she said "oh yes that was precancerous". She told my wife to just keep an eye on it. The is no chance for the VA to send me to another specialist for this so I will have to live with it or die with it.

    I also have thyroid disease and one of the VA nurses called me 6 months ago and told me to double my dosage of medicine. This medicine will mess your liver up if it isn't checked closely. I do not know when they will call me back for another blood test to see if the meds are right or if it is building up in my liver.

    I have had some serious problems before, including heart problems, and found out right quick, if you are in really bad shape you best go to the ER because you will be dead before the VA will see you. I can say one thing for them, they are good at giving you meds but the service otherwise here is the pits.
     
  14. Cathooker

    Cathooker New Member

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    I go to a VA clinic and so far it has been a nightmare....too much paper work...too many people that DO NOT CARE!!!
     
  15. chambers bd

    chambers bd New Member

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    Mr. Chambers,


    In response to your email of 8-25-07 and our telephone contact yesterday,
    Monday, 8-27-07, I have spoken at length to Program Specialists involved in
    the communications, their team leader, and Ms. Pascoe. I apologize for any
    difficulty you have experienced. We have addressed the reminder of the
    mission to which you referred, in serving our nation's veterans. I have
    also addressed phone and other communication procedures and priorities with
    them. We have training scheduled to address these issues further.

    Please let me know if you encounter any similar difficulties in the future.

    Sincerely,

    Amy Thompson, MHS, CRC, CCM
    Supervisory, VRC
    Department of Veterans Affairs
    Atlanta Regional Office (28)
    PO Box 100024
    Decatur, GA 30031
    Phone: (404) 929-3152
    FAX: (404) 929-2168
    Email: amy.thompson1@va.gov
     
  16. chambers bd

    chambers bd New Member

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    ONE FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED SERVICES




    :big_smile:


    GOD BLESS YOU ALL
     
  17. jtrew

    jtrew New Member

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    I'll have to say that VA rehab worked great for me. Medical treatment's another story. Right now, out of 9 medications I'm actually taking, the VA has me down for 10 in their computer. The extra med is one that a doctor who had never seen me before prescribed without checking for interactions with other meds. It dropped my blood pressure to something like 48/37, which sent me to the ER. But it wasn't taken off the computer, even though they told me not to take it any more. Noticing that it was still on their computer, I contacted my doctor's nurse and had her remove it from the computer, and also make some other corrections. Of course, nothing resulted from that. When I was in the hospital a few weeks ago, and they tried giving me medicine according to their computer, I refused to take it, and demanded that they correct their errors. While they did make the corrections as far as bring me my medications went, they still didn't make any corrections in the computer. And after refusing to take the wrong meds, all I got was attitude from everyone there. Like, "It's time for your meds, are you going to take them today?" And the doctors quit coming by to treat me. Fortunately, after a couple of days, their rotation put some new docs on and they started coming by. The corrections still haven't been made in their computer, and I'm still receiving twice as much medication as I can use for two of my meds. Wonder where your tax dollars go? And why the VA is always short of funds?
     
  18. splitshot

    splitshot New Member

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    I go to a local VA clinic for all of my blood work that has to be done once a month and for routine checkups. I also receive all my meds through the mail from the VA. The local clinic does a good job and they are very thorough. The VA hospital is another story. I went there once because of severe back pain and i was having a hard time breathing. I was there seven hrs. and never saw a Dr. The nurse who treated me wanted me to take medication that was not compatible With coumadin which is a blood thinner. Ive been on coumadin for twelve yrs. and know what i can take and what not to take. To make a long story short i ended up with a bag full of meds. and had to throw half of them away. I reported this to my Dr. at the clinic and she agreed and said she would report there incompetence to the Admin. I will never for any reason go back to the VA hospital!! I now have medicare, which i use in conjuction with my Va benifits. I havent had to use the medicare yet, but im sure its safer than using a VA hospital.
     
  19. olefin

    olefin New Member

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    I too, been on coumadin for 16 years but don't use VA for control... only to get the coumadin and other medication. Since you mention it... once at the local VA clinic they included in my yearly blood work a check on my INR/PT (coumadin control).

    They normally never check those for they know they are not in charge of control. They ran the test and panic! They said my INR/PT was way too high... said I was in immediate danger and started to give me shot of vitamin K to counter act the coumadin. I flat out right refused for my INR had been checked the week before. At first they didn't want me to leave the clinic but I went straight to my Cardiologist for another INR. It was still normal. Had the VA clinic gave me the VK shot it could have given me a stroke from a blood clot forming on my mechanical heart valve.

    One caution about VA mail order prescriptions that everyone should be aware of. Now and then they change where they are buying their drugs. Sometimes I get a prescription that are a different color and has different writing on the pills. I ALWAYS call VA and speak with the Pharmacist to make sure what they sent is correct. They thank me for checking.

    I don't fully trust my Cardiologist when he prescribes new drugs without checking online or with a local Pharmacist to be sure it doesn't interfere with coumadin. Doctors are not up on drugs like Pharmacist.
     
  20. fish

    fish Active Member

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    I was taking an anti-depressant and was having problems sleeping and my heart was really acting up about that time. So what did they give me for a sleeping pill? Another type of anti-depressant. When I had it filled and found out it was another anti-d Judy called the VA and they said it was OK to take them both at the same time. We looked it up online and if I had taken those two different, two different strength, anti-depressants, I probably wouldn't be here typing this today.

    At another time, I received not only the thryoid meds and one other prescription that I had phoned in for refill, but they also sent 4 other prescriptions that I hadn't requested. When we called the VA they said they couldn't take any meds back, even though they hadn't been opened. We also were told we had to pay for the ones we hadn't asked for. That bill was for over $120.00.