Just wanted to let everyone that assisted me know that i had MUCH better luck last week than i did before i posted my 'new to winter fishing' thread. I learned a lot from throwing ideas around with you guys, and for that i thank you all.. Just in case anyone is interested i'm going to explain what i did different this last week, that I feel led to better fishing.. I started at 8 AM last Friday morning, and even though I couldnt see the hand in front of my face, it was an absolutely beautiful morning. I had the entire lake to myself, and started fishing in the main lake, by a 50 ft tree that was standing in about 35 ft water, next to a very drastic 30 ft drop off. (This is much deeper than what I was fishing in the prior weeks.) I didnt have much luck at first, but after about an hour they started biting. This was huge for me because I had tried so much the prior weeks, only landing one fish the entire time. So after the first bite, I no longer felt the bitter cold wind, and soft freezing rain. Anyway I caught 4 nice ones ranging from 16 17 inches in about 2 hrs. Then I moved to a point that had a massive tree standing on a good sized drop off, in about 28 ft deep water. And again there I had pulled in another 4 very nice eaters (I lost 2 so I should have had 6). So I totaled 8 fish in about 4 hrs time, much better than before .. One thing I noticed is that the fish I was catching, all Blue Cats, had a slightly different color than the ones Im use to seeing (lighter, almost white). The only thing I can think of is either; some catfish will stay in deeper water, and do not feed in shallow waters like the ones Im use to catching, or their colors change when the water temp drops. Does anyone know how far catfish migrate in there lifetimes? If they stay in the same areas, this means I can fish my same summer spots, but just go deeper from the usual. Also, do catfish get the benz from being dredged up from deep water?