I used to make my own stands, climbers and chain-on, and they worked real well. They are a little heavy since I made them out of steel instead of Alum., but I didn't have to carry them very far and left them up all year. Although I still use a couple ladder stands for scouting, and have a few other climbers and hang-on's, a few years ago I switched to an API Grand Slam after several of my stands got stolen (I always take it out with me when the hunt is over). The Grand Slam is great. It's as comfortable as an arm chair, easy to carry up & down these Virginia mountains, and very stable. I like climbers because they are so much easier to set up and move when sign changes. I've sat in mine for 12 hours before with no problem. What kind of stand, if any, do you use? Check all that apply!!!