Tons of nibbling and tugging, but could not get them to hook

Discussion in 'Channel Catfish' started by SyKo450, Aug 30, 2009.

  1. SyKo450

    SyKo450 New Member

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    What the heck is up with that?

    What could I have been doing wrong?
     
  2. BIG GEORGE

    BIG GEORGE New Member

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    Don't know about them west coast channels. LOL! I would start with this. Are your hooks good and sharp and are they the rite size for what ya are targetting? Also is there enough hook point exposure after ya bait the hook? Its a good place to start.
     

  3. SyKo450

    SyKo450 New Member

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    They're sharp, I believe they're the right size, also believe there's enough hook exposed
     
  4. Jollymon

    Jollymon Well-Known Member

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    Ric ,just to be sure try stepping up a hook size or two an try a couple riggs with the larger hooks ,that would tell u ,Use same size baits on all rigs but larger hooks on a few ,just a thought :wink:
     
  5. slikk03

    slikk03 New Member

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    what yo delin with is small channels not self hooking,or mouthing flats, trie team doble action hooks in a few sizes, wen they tug tug back to the side and you can hook a half pounder
     
  6. flathunter

    flathunter New Member

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    sounds like turtle bites to me.
     
  7. SyKo450

    SyKo450 New Member

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    I had been using size 1 treble hooks and caught 20+ inchers, but now I couldn't even get them to stay hooked, I'd let it sit in the water, and it was a good minute of tugging and when I'd yank on it there would be nothing but a clean hook left

    Also thought that they might have had been turtles, I've hooked a couple of them already

    Maybe I'll go down a size or 2 on the treble
     
  8. KAW RIVER KILLER

    KAW RIVER KILLER New Member

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    There's your problem, go with a khale or circle hook or some kind of hybrid hook.
     
  9. SyKo450

    SyKo450 New Member

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    Got a few 5/0 kahles to try out
     
  10. JoeDaCatKing

    JoeDaCatKing New Member

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    I use mostly 3/0 and 4/0 hooks but out of nowhere the fish started doin this to me could be a sudden change in temperature,cold front, or the water got warm to the point the cats are getting sluggish. Just theories of mine and Im no biologist
     
  11. CatSlayer715

    CatSlayer715 New Member

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    team catfish double action hooks. If theyre smaller fish, use a 3/0-5/0 hook. When you KNOW they're on, reel down on them before you even take it out of the rod holder then set it. If they STILL aren't on, then they're probably turtles. And man do i hate turtles. try another spot with bigger fish and less turtles. lol. What are you using for bait?
     
  12. plainsman

    plainsman New Member Supporting Member

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    Seems to me either turtles or small cats on the bait. Smaller bait and hook, can still get the big ones but the little ones can get it in their mouth. I'd go with a size 1-5 circle hook, and bait small enough to let em get the whole thing in their mouth.

    I got one that took a few bites to get the whole bait in his mouth. I had a circle hook, so I let him keep at it. With a J hook I woulda tried to set the hook and lost him. Keep at it, good luck.
     
  13. SyKo450

    SyKo450 New Member

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    Bought a few 4/0 Owner circles to try out too

    I'm using chicken liver as bait and sometimes shrimp, I get more bites with chicken liver though

    Going to take a different approach this time, going to use a float to have the bait suspended in the water instead of dragging it in the bottom

    As for turtles, there's some turtles there too, but they tend to eat the entire hook with bait
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2009
  14. atvracer

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    I agree!
     
  15. brinley45cal

    brinley45cal Active Member

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    i agree with flathunter sounds just like a turtle bite to me.those buggers will bite like that just about everytime.
     
  16. SyKo450

    SyKo450 New Member

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    Constantly for 1.5 hours?
     
  17. brinley45cal

    brinley45cal Active Member

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    yup you bet they will especially if theres more then one.they will stay there all day as long as your throwing food out to them.
     
  18. beagle1963

    beagle1963 New Member

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    Happens all the time to me. I bet its small channels. Use a smaller, like 2/0 hook and don't wait for them to pull the rod down, just time when to set the hook and you can get pretty good hook ups.
     
  19. SyKo450

    SyKo450 New Member

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    Stupid catfish...
     
  20. daystarchis

    daystarchis New Member

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    Where you fishing brother....i am from California. You South Cali?