I've found one of each at a pawnshop and believe I can get them for much less than the asking. All are in good condition...I'm pretty good at judging reels, having done all my own repairs for over 30 years. None of these reels show much wear and tear, other than normal scratches. The Tidewater appears to be pretty new. (stolen and pawned reels?) I've never owned a baitcaster larger than an Abu 5500. so don't know much about the larger ones. My use will be for blue cats and I want to be prepared for one in the up to 40lb range. I'm most familiar with the Abu products, then the Penn's. I may also use the reel for gar fishing for gar in the 20 to 60 lb range, but not often. Suggestions welcome.