anyone else have trouble with these rigs? they seem to snag a lot more than a slip sinker rig. also i noticed they get tangled a lot more around your main line and sinkers. they seem to be more complicated than whats really needed. the more swivels and knots you have the more weak spots there are in your setup. i consider a slip sinker rig more all around than these styles and pretty much better. the only reason i would tie one of these rigs on would be to to raise my bait off the bottom, but adding a clip on bobber seems to solve that problem on a slip sinker rig. i guess what i'm getting at is why use these rigs when you can use a better more durable one. tell me what i'm missing about these rigs cause they have to have a use.