I would like to take the time to thank Robert (Bobpaul) and Willard (bubbakat). Robert has been helping us maintain our motor for some time and Willard has recently became very active in this section of the board. With the Advice of these two men we have saved (collectivly) thousands of dollars on simple repairs. Not to mention Robert won't candy coat the fact that a motor is a "POS". I myself have learned alot from these guys and now feal very comfortable tearing into my motor now. Thank you very much for the insight on boat motors. There are many good articles (threads) that are free for our taking. And they are great resources for some simple and some yet complicated motor issues. Bear in mind that these men do this for the love of the BOC and do not recieve any compensation for their time, other than the self gratification of helping someone. So I ask that if these guys have helped you in the past to please drop them a kind word to let them know you apprieciate them and their service. Robert, Willard, if I ever meet either of you in person, lunch is on me. It's the least I could do. Oh... and some adult beverages are included of course. David Frantz BTW Robert.... that 55HP chrysler I bought and asked you about last year...... just like you said .. it is a big'ole' POS. Thanks for the honest answers about it.... I have not put any more money into it. And now have a better boat and better motor.