"cause we need one.:smile2: My buddy's grandson is 14 now, and has been hunting with us for about 3 years. I've tried, in vain, to get him to pick a spot he believes in, and then stay there and let the dogs do the work. Today he was helping me clean a rabbit I'd just shot, and said, "I told Pawpaw you'd come out of nowhere and kill this rabbit, just like always". I'd been leaning against the same tree for 15 minutes when that rabbit came by.:big_smile: Staying put may just be too much to ask of a teenager.