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This kind of branches off my other thread, I sent an email with my concerns to the Kentucky Dept of Fish and Wildlife. After it was bounced around for awhile, eventually it got to the right person who was able to address our concerns. I will post my email, and then the response. The response is interesting, but you can still tell that the money aspect of the commercial fishing industry for KY will be the biggest obstacle in getting any changes in the current regs, but he admits that it is a problem..Ky guys may find this interesting..

My name is Travis Halsey, I live in Batavia OH, a town just east of Cincinnati. I am a Tournament Angler, and Catfishing has really become my true passion. My concern is that every time I go out on the Ohio River, I see an increasing number of commercial nets. Here on the Ohio River around Cincinnati, these fish that are harvested, and for the most part, are not for the purpose of human consumption. Instead, they are sold to the hundreds of Pay Lakes in the surrounding area. The fate of these Trophy Fish is sealed once this takes place. Instead of living out there life in their natural habitat, they are stuffed into what is the equilivant of a bath tub, to be caught over and over again, and in most cases starved to keep the fish biting, and customers coming back. There are mounds of dead fish over hills, and in the woods of these establishments, which is the reason they must stock thousands of pounds per week in most cases, to keep customers coming back.
Is there any research that has been done, as to the affects of commercial fishing in the Ohio River? I find it hard to believe, that from pool to pool, this does not take a toll on the fishery. Removing fish that have taken decades to grow in many cases, just so they can be caught in a private pond over and over again...These Trophy fish are not easily replaced. I spoke with a commercial Hoop Netter the other day, and he told me that there is an "endless supply" of big catfish in the River. I was shocked at his statement, it had to be the most uneducated phrase I had ever heard.
Is KY aware that this is where many of the Catfish that are netted in the rivers are taken to these pay ponds? Ohio seems to be on board, and recognizes that there is a problem, but Ohio does not own the River.
I will be on a Radio program in a couple of weeks, discussing this very issue. Which is why I wanted to contact you for some information. My intent is not to get on the radio, and verbally scold KY, Commercial Netting, or anything of the sort. My goal is to educate people on the problem, and to make anglers more vigilant on the River. There is a percentage of this activity that takes place illegally, and that will be my main focus. Has KY ever thought about making netting a seasonal operation? Pulling these fish off there nest during the spawn is also another problem.
In conclusion, this practice to me is no different than putting hundreds of Deer inside a fenced compound, and allowing them to be hunted. However, I understand the commercial fishing industry in KY is most likely another way the state can generate revenue. I just wish there were more restrictions from the state of KY, I guess someone will start to take notice when the numbers of these Big Catfish start to dwindle, but by then it may be to late, and may take the river years to recover.
If some of my information seems off base I apologize, this is why I try and contact people in the know. I am just another concerned fisherman, and want my son to be able to catch these Trophy Fish in the future.

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Mr. Halsey,

The Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife appreciates your concern in the catfish fishery of the Ohio River. We are aware of most of the items that you brought up in your email. With this in mind, we have been looking at the problem and trying to determine the status of catfish populations in the Ohio River. We began a creel survey in the McAlpine Pool this spring that is directed at the catfish sport fishery and we are asking anglers for their impressions and ideas about the fishery. We have been collecting population data for the past 3 years to try and determine how these populations are doing. The Ohio River is a vast place and finding answers to biological questions can be a daunting task. Never the less, we are endeavoring to find some of these answers. The states sharing borders along the Ohio River meet once or twice a year to discuss fishery issues and the trophy catfish verses commercial catfish fishery has been a topic several times. We (Kentucky) are aware that other states have size limits and creel limits on large catfish in the Ohio River and we are trying to find common ground between the sport and commercial interests.

Again, thank you for your interest in this important fishery. Feel free to contact me if you have further questions.
Doug Henley
Ohio River Biologist
 

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Sometimes it takes time. Keep up the good fight!!!! Don't give up, it looks like you are on the right tract.

I don't get to fish this area, but I appriciate the work and effort you are putting forth.
 

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Sounds like they are aware of a problem with the commercial fishing on the river otherwise there would not be a biologist committed to the health of the catfish fishery on the Ohio.Patience an persistence will prevail, hopefully it won't be too late ! One thing we all know for sure government moves very slow while the rest of us have the answer.
 

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paylakes should only be allowed to stock carp I dont think people care what they catch at pay lakes as long as its big so carp should be the only fish there allowed to stock or just close the damn places down everyone that got a mud puddle wants to make a paylake out of it . Its easy money and Travis THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOUR DOING
 

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good work, i agree though, that was a "thanks for you concern, were working on it, bla bla bla...." if you see unmarked lines cut em If you don't want to, tell me were they are and i'll cut em, hardly ever catch anything anyhow and enjoy the occasional confrontation.
and ive said this before on another post and i'll say it again, don't underestimate tree huggers. If you could get some of them on our side to make some sappy videos of netters catching cats and transported to paylakes and the rate of themk dying, ala baby seals getting clubbed in canada, you could get some fired up vegans or green peace hippies workin for us. Remeber a friend of my enemy is a friend of mine, and also remember were not drilling in Anwr, why is that? The power of tree huggers!
 

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Have you considered contacting Tim Farmer and seeing if he would be interested in doing a segment on this issue in an upcoming episode of "Kentucky Afield?" They do lots of segments on conservation of wildlife in Ky, I watch it every week, I'm sure there are others here who do as well.

Just a thought.......
 

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Have you considered contacting Tim Farmer and seeing if he would be interested in doing a segment on this issue in an upcoming episode of "Kentucky Afield?" They do lots of segments on conservation of wildlife in Ky, I watch it every week, I'm sure there are others here who do as well.

Just a thought.......

There is a Youtube video of a segment Tim did on the show with a Commercial guy on Kentucky Lake they show how the fish were treated some were put in the livewell with no water or pump running. These fish were going for Slaughter for food. If anyone is interested I will try to find the Video for you
 

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Have you considered contacting Tim Farmer and seeing if he would be interested in doing a segment on this issue in an upcoming episode of "Kentucky Afield?" They do lots of segments on conservation of wildlife in Ky, I watch it every week, I'm sure there are others here who do as well.

Just a thought.......

what channel does that air on? can it be picked up on cable or locally in cincy? i seen some of the KA on youtube and liked them.
 

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Travis what you are getting done is unbelievable. However the sad news is this post is indicating that nothing is in the process of getting done and it seems like letters to them are few and far between. others need to pitch in, i will be writing an e-mail to them tomorrow.......RAT
 

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what channel does that air on? can it be picked up on cable or locally in cincy? i seen some of the KA on youtube and liked them.
We get it here on a couple of different channels, KET and CW out of Lexington. I'm not sure what Cincinnati offers as far as KY channels, though there might be an Ohio station that carries it...
 

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I am glad to see that you are going about it in the right manner. For those of you that are thinking that the government is slow, my opinion is that is a good thing. In so many parts of our lives we complain about government interference and stupid laws. All angles of the issue should be studied especially when it comes to our liberties or the lack thereof. I remember how long it took to turn around the pollution problems on both the Ohio River and Lake Erie. Keep up the good fight, you may be changing history.
 
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