the big blue

Discussion in 'KANSAS RIVERS TALK' started by uttatoo, Feb 17, 2008.

  1. uttatoo

    uttatoo New Member

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    does anyone here fish the big blue
    that is where i caught my biggest flattie and alot of gar if you fish the blue let me know where and what your thought are for that system
     
  2. Dsage

    Dsage Active Member

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    Topeka, Kansas
    I have fished it a few times mostly at Rocky Ford. I have not had much luck on it the last few years though.
     

  3. Katatonik

    Katatonik New Member

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    Ogden, Kansas,
    Rocky Ford is a good spot for folks that bank fish but like a lot of places
    that are fished hard by a lot of people there is a bunch of old mono strung
    between the rocks underwater that you can get hung up in. Down by the
    boat ramp on the Blue there is a railway bridge that has some old pilings
    submerged in the current. This is a good spot to whack gar if you like doing
    that. If a cat can outrun the gar, they're pretty fun but you've got to get
    control of the fight quick or they're into the wood and you've lost
    your rig. The best action is when you can use a boat and work the snags
    and undercuts all the way to where the Big Blue joins the Kaw. Good Times!
     
  4. Dsage

    Dsage Active Member

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    Topeka, Kansas
    I have always wanted to try the Blue fom a boat but since you have to have land owners ok, it has been somthing I have not tried.
     
  5. Katatonik

    Katatonik New Member

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    Ogden, Kansas,
    Seems weird they'd have a public boat ramp near Hwy 24 if they didn't mean
    folks to fish the river. I know the Kaw is okay because old laws call it navigatible and from the highest water mark it is state property.
     
  6. River Outlaw

    River Outlaw New Member

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    out run the gar is right at rocky ford !! my brother & i went down there and seen dead gar every 6 in. it seems, hundreds. they weren't all dead though cuz they kept gettin the bait. we fought the jungle and tried above the dam but got nuthin. i did get startled by the bigget beaver ive ever seen other than 1 other place lol
     
  7. uttatoo

    uttatoo New Member

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    well when i fish the big blue i fish it with jack love of mega cat crew who has permission and can only take one boat and we catch a boat load of flathead almost every trip
     
  8. River Outlaw

    River Outlaw New Member

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    Topeka, Kansas,
    i see nothin nowhere that says them waters are closed to the public
     
  9. kmcalester

    kmcalester Active Member

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    Kansas City
    Where is it located?
     
  10. uttatoo

    uttatoo New Member

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    State:
    greatbend kansas
    the big blue below tuttle creek to the kaw is closed to the public
    at the boat ramp there is a sign that says upstream river access closed
    my friend jack told me of people getting shot at
    but i do know after talking with a fish and game warden they do get called out alot and hand out tickets to people tresspassing
    public fishing is allowed in some areas but yes that river is non navagatable
    any questions just check with me i look into the subject alot
    trying to get the state to open it to the public but farmers putting up walls and hard to fight
     
  11. Dsage

    Dsage Active Member

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    State:
    Topeka, Kansas
    We have three streams that have been deemed to be navigable -- the Missouri River, which forms a small boundary between Kansas and Missouri; the Kansas River, which starts at Junction City and flows through Manhattan, Topeka, Lawrence and Kansas City; and then the Arkansas River, which starts out in Colorado and flows into Kansas, through Great Bend, down through Wichita and then into Oklahoma. Those three rivers being navigable at statehood are open to the public for canoe purposes because the state owns the bed. All other steams creeks and water ways are owned by the land owners and one must get the ok from the land owners. This means if a person owns the land on one side and not the other then you must get the ok from both land owners.
     
  12. River Outlaw

    River Outlaw New Member

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    what about the wakarusa ?? we put in at the ramp off 93rd by don's steakhouse, back in there. there are signs stating the creel limits and such.
     
  13. uttatoo

    uttatoo New Member

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    as far as the laws go if the state owns the land next to the river then its public but like most laws they have to be inforced
    as far as the big blue they are inforced because of a farmer with a stick up his A--
     
  14. River Outlaw

    River Outlaw New Member

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    lol @ the placement of the stick !!

    there are more than 3 though. i just got this from kdwp site............

    RIVER FISHING
    Big Blue River - Rocky Ford Dam below Tuttle Creek Reservoir
    Big Blue River - Tuttle Creek Reservoir Wildlife Area
    Big Blue River - Marysville
    Delaware River -Perry Reservoir Wildlife Area, Valley Falls
    Kansas River -Lawrence
    Kansas River -Topeka
    Kansas River - Mouth of Big Blue River, Manhattan
    Marais des Cygnes River - low-water dam, Osawatomie
    Missouri River - City parks in Doniphan, Atchison, and Leavenworth counties
    Republican River - Milford Reservoir Wildlife Area
    Rock Creek - Clinton Reservoir Wildlife Area
    Wakarusa River - Eudora
    Wakarusa River - Clinton Reservoir Wildlife Area
     
  15. uttatoo

    uttatoo New Member

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    the big blue is all one river those places u r talking about are areas where people have access to the river but between those areas the river is private land
     
  16. uttatoo

    uttatoo New Member

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    we put our boat in on the ramp in manhattan near the kansas and go up stream that spot is public but above is private the bridge is good fishing though theres been some good ones caught there in the sixty lb catagory
     
  17. River Outlaw

    River Outlaw New Member

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    so is it between the spillway and the dam thats restricted or past rocky ford - the kaw ??
     
  18. uttatoo

    uttatoo New Member

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    from the pond or old dam to the kaw that is restricted it is 5 miles of private land owners and from the highway bridge to the kaw is public
    we need to get together and stop the farmers from getting away with this rivers should be free
    the constitution says we are free to travel but this does not allow me to travel freely so write ur law makers
     
  19. Dsage

    Dsage Active Member

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    State:
    Topeka, Kansas
    From going to the meeting that the Fish and Game had at the Center in Topeka the anwser that I received is that there are 3 rivers/streams that are navigable. Others have sections that are but these are short runs or they have areas to fish at. Like the places listed below.

    Big Blue River - Rocky Ford Dam below Tuttle Creek Reservoir
    Big Blue River - Tuttle Creek Reservoir Wildlife Area
    Big Blue River - Marysville
    Delaware River -Perry Reservoir Wildlife Area, Valley Falls
    Kansas River - Mouth of Big Blue River, Manhattan
    Marais des Cygnes River - low-water dam, Osawatomie
    Republican River - Milford Reservoir Wildlife Area
    Rock Creek - Clinton Reservoir Wildlife Area
    Wakarusa River - Eudora
    Wakarusa River - Clinton Reservoir Wildlife Area

    Is is fair no, but is it going to change easily no, it has been that way for to many years. A lot of time you can get the OK from the farmer if you talk to them and let them know that you are just fishing from a Boat We have received alot of our areas this way.
     
  20. uttatoo

    uttatoo New Member

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    i fully agree with u and even the ark river in barton county i ask for permision and have a key to drive right up to the river for about 5 miles were i live because the farmer got tired of seeing me walk with my son to my favorite hole carrying all my equipment and the state should do something but it is going to take help to do it and any kind of responce is better than none