I just wanted to let the guys know about the problems I've had this year with these bullets. I've used them for the last 5 years, but this year I believe they changed how they're made. In years past, they've worked pretty well. They were accurate in my Omega and usually dropped my deer within 50 yards with a well placed shot. This year, they failed to perform in 7 deer shot in our group. All shots were well placed shots. The first deer, a tall 8 point, was never recovered even after a long blood trail that ran out. It was tracked for a half a mile and searched for all day, and nothing. The next two, they were let lay for two hours and when found, were still on their feet and had to be finished off with a different load that dropped them. The damage to the ribs looked ok, but the internal organs looked like they were shot with an arrow with a practice tip, a nice clean small hole all the way through. I then shot one through the sholder bone in hopes of spraying bone fragments through the vitals and this seemed to work and dropped the deer. I just don't like wasting sholder meat but with the lack of damage this bullet did, it didn't ruin much. Another small doe was shot on the last day, and it left without ANY blood and was thought to be a miss after a half day of looking. A neighbor hunting the property shot it later in the day still standing with a nice clean hole on both sides and hardly any damage to any organs. The last one was shot through the sholder bone again but still ran 80 yards with not much blood trail. I get better performance from my "ole bessy" with a patched 54 caliber round ball!!!!!!!!! I'll definitely be looking for a new bullet for next year!