Spoonbill eggs

Discussion in 'LOCAL OKLAHOMA TALK' started by catfishinfordman, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. catfishinfordman

    catfishinfordman New Member

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    who has used the eggs from your spoony for catfish bait.I tried it last season an found out that it works pretty well.
     
  2. fishnfool68

    fishnfool68 New Member

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    I was fishing once at twin bridges off the dock and catching nothing.This boy who was sitting next to me and my buddy, went and got some spoonbill eggs from some guys cleaningthier catch.Boom - he was catching channels left and right- sitting 5 feet from me:crazy: .However read the regulations- I think it is illegal to fish with spoonbill eggs in Oklahoma.
     

  3. SkiMax

    SkiMax New Member

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    They are also really valuable as caviar. most guys that fish for them commercially do it for the eggs. so that could be a really expensive piece of bait-they probably like a big juicy steak too but that aint gonna happen! lol
     
  4. xringer3

    xringer3 New Member

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    I just read the oklahoma regulations for spoonbill. It doesn't say anything about using the eggs for bait. It doesn't say you can, and it doesn't say you can't. Hey, I'm for using whatever they'll bite on!

    What do you use to keep the eggs on the hook? I never thought of using them, but if they work that good, I"ll start saving mine from the rare few I get my hands on.
     
  5. catfishcentral

    catfishcentral New Member

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    Spoonbill eggs do work great and are legal to use. There is strict regs on harvesting spoonbill one per day and it needs to be tagged just like a deer. I believe this rule not only applies to a spoonbill as a whole but any carcess parts you might use. I'd keep your tag info on a zilpoc bags if that's what your eggs are in to CYA. There's also a limit on the amount of raw unprocessed eggs one can have in there posession....I don't have the regs close to me but it's something like fifteen pounds.

    I was taught to pull the whole egg sack out of fish being very careful not to break open the egg sack. Let the eggs sit out for a short while in the sun then freeze. Now cut chucks off and place on your hook. While the eggs thaw on your hooks they slowly fall off getting that catfish's attention.
     
  6. cook

    cook New Member

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    Old pair of nylons would work also,just cut a 2x2 inch sq. and stuff with eggs,thread on any type hook like with liver
     
  7. primitivefrn

    primitivefrn Member

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    spoonbill eggs are illegal, to use in Missouri. Page 65. 3 csr 10-6.525
    Jim
     
  8. catfishinfordman

    catfishinfordman New Member

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    yes I took mine out of the fish and put them straight into a freezer bag.And freeze take out about an hour before u go or just on the way. And like mr cook said use some nylons. I use a #2 circle hook.
     
  9. Okccatman

    Okccatman New Member

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    I would not use them as bait. They are sooooooo tasty when prepared correctly as a caviar. I have started saving my catfish eggs as they are quite good to eat as well.

    _edit_ Don't ask me how to prepare them. I was given some by Albert McBee and they did not last long at all.

    Dave
     
  10. tkishkape

    tkishkape New Member

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    Don't waste those spoonbill eggs by using them for bait! What a waste!

    Use the following recipe and produce genuine caviar that would sell in the Gormet store for $3 to 15 per OUNCE!

    If you will carefully line the sink with a single layer of cheesecloth, place the egg sacks in the sink with the stopper in. Gently run cold water into the sink until it covers the egg sacks.

    Now the work begins... carefully remove all of the little membranes holding the eggs together without popping the eggs. All of the membrane must be removed or the caviar will not look right.

    Prepare a clean plastic washtub with a cover for the brining process. It must be large enough to hold twice the volume of the cleaned eggs.

    Make a brine by dissolving 2 pounds of non-iodized salt per gallon of water used.

    Carefully drain the cleaned eggs by picking up the corners of the cheesecloth and holding it over the sink until the dripping is stopped or you get tired of holding it. Allow the water to drain away. DO NOT squeeze the egg mass to force water out of it.

    Place the cheesecloth into the brining tub with the brine, opening the cheesecloth to allow the saltwater to permiate the entire mass. Allow the eggs to soak in the brine for 30 minutes, then carefully stir the eggs with your hands, removing any tiny bits of membrane as you find it. Repeat every 30 minutes for a total of 2 hours.

    Once again, drain the caviar in the cheesecloth without squeezing the mass. This time, allow the caviar to drain completely in the refrigerator overnight. Run the brine down the drain.

    Package the finished caviar in small portions of 1/2 cup or less. A little goes a long way. Be sure to identify the packages of caviar in accordance with the ODWC directives. Give some away as gifts, serve some at special parties with a nice white wine and enjoy the rest yourself.

    Delicious!

    I've still got some I made last year. It's best eaten within a few weeks, but it keeps well in the deep freeze. Try it with a regular pate' or your favorite cheese dip on crackers. You'll see why the Russians went nuts for this stuff!
     
  11. Katmandeux

    Katmandeux New Member

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    When I lived on the Gulf, we ate lots of fried mullet roe. Delicious!

    I sold a motor to a guy several years ago, who told me he fished with crappie roe. Claimed he tore the cats up at Ft Gibson dam.
     
  12. jtrew

    jtrew New Member

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    Ok, I know the size of salmon eggs, and I know the size of both red & black caviar eggs, but what is the size of the paddlefish eggs? Small, like caviar, or large enough to impale on a small hook, like salmon eggs.
     
  13. catfishcentral

    catfishcentral New Member

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    There too small for a hook..it's more like the size of caviar you eat. They need to be frozen or placed in a nylon to use for bait. I don't know if you can tell for this picture the size of them.
     

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  14. Larry Collier

    Larry Collier New Member

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    I've never eaten Russian caviar but I do know the roe from spoons is a viable substitute for the expensive import. About 20 years ago there were several arrests made in connection with the sale of spoon roe for use in the caviar trade. One of the men arrested was a resident of the Ft Gibson Lake area who was caught crossing the state line with several hundred pounds of spoon roe. According to the reports at the time a middleman was buying spoon and sturgeon roe from several states for commercial packaging and resale. If anyone thinks they might make a few extra bucks trying this, think again! The guy from around here lost everything he owned and spent some serious jail time!