Species?

Discussion in 'LOCAL GEORGIA TALK' started by bradley_G, May 8, 2009.

  1. bradley_G

    bradley_G New Member

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    hey guys, have some species to identify. The first is a snake I killed in the backyard, and the other two are fish I caught while gathering shad for a potential night trip tonight. any help identifying them would be great. I think the big one may be a gizzard shad but its pretty big, the picture has it on top of a five gallon bucket lid.
     

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  2. Catfish_Commando

    Catfish_Commando TF Staff Member

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    Bradley,


    Corn Snake

    Gizzard Shad

    Black Tail shiner

    The snake color is weird for a corn snake?
     

  3. stumpjumper

    stumpjumper New Member

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    The snake is an Eastern Milk Snake. Completely harmless like most snakes in the area.

    Timber Rattlesnakes, Cottonmouth, Copperhead and Coral are some venomous snakes found in our area. All four have distinct habitats and characteristics that make them unmistakable.
     
  4. stumpjumper

    stumpjumper New Member

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    Oh, good luck fishing tonight Bradley!
     
  5. unclebuncle

    unclebuncle New Member

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    That looks like a rattle headed copper moccasin.They're on rare and endangered species list,$5,000 fine for killing one.:smile2:
     
  6. Fishmaster1203

    Fishmaster1203 New Member

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  7. 1mickymoo

    1mickymoo New Member

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    1.Did anyone look at the shape of the head? I thought corn and milk snakes had round heads.

    2.nice gizzard shad


    3.????? don't know
     
  8. catfishjohn

    catfishjohn New Member

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  9. Fishmaster1203

    Fishmaster1203 New Member

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    Looks like it's head got smashed with a shovel.

    The first photo is a milk snake. The second photo is a copperhead.
     
  10. Fishmaster1203

    Fishmaster1203 New Member

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    Milk snakes are also part of the king snake family and eat other snakes, including copperheads and rattlesnakes. FYI
     
  11. bradley_G

    bradley_G New Member

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    judging by the images I could find of eastern milk snakes, this one had a distictly different head shape, and a different orange-ish tint. here is a little better picture of the head.

    The body itself was not the same shape, I grew up with california king snakes I caught as pets, it was not slender like a king/coral snake. The body was fatter and length shorter, with a narrow neck and wide head.

    It had some nice little fangs which I havent seen in any other than lethal snakes, but GA is a new place for me.

    It seemed to be a much wider head, a very diamond like broad head, (even before the shovel incident [which was a cut not a smash]) thats why I took the precautions that I did, having many children around.
     

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  12. Fishmaster1203

    Fishmaster1203 New Member

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    Looks like a copperhead head, but the bands don't look like a copperhead.

    If it had fangs, I guess it was a copperhead with a strange band pattern.

    Maybe you did'nt break the law. :smile2: LOL
     
  13. centexcop

    centexcop Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather see more pictures of bait, or maybe even catfish. To ME, all snakes are the same and the only good one is a dead one! unless it's a life or death situation, no snake is gonna get whacked in the head with a shovel or cut with a hoe.... It's gonna get perforated with a 12 gauge. My wife laughs when I run for the shotgun to take care of a little green grass snake......:eek:oooh:
     
  14. Fishmaster1203

    Fishmaster1203 New Member

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    That's terrible Joey. Snakes need love too. :big_smile:
     
  15. Fishmaster1203

    Fishmaster1203 New Member

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    Bradley, I just looked at about 50 photos of copperheads, both juvenile and adult and none had a pattern like your snake. Like I said before, the head looks like a copperhead but I've never seen a pattern quite like that. Maybe it's a freak of nature copperhead. How long were it's fangs?

    Or maybe it's an exotic species that someone turned loose. Either way, it does look poisonous.
     
  16. centexcop

    centexcop Well-Known Member

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    Well I guess you're going to have to help a brother out. You're going to have to double up on your love for snakes cause its not gonna come from me.....:eek:oooh:
     
  17. REBELYELL1861

    REBELYELL1861 New Member

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    OH YEA THATS A COPPERHEAD FOR SURE
    IVE SEEN AND KILLED DOZENS OF THEM SNAKES AND EVERY ONE OFEM LOOKED DIFF
     
  18. Fishmaster1203

    Fishmaster1203 New Member

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    I've seen a bunch of them too. Some way to close up, but I've never seen one with a pattern like that (see photo on page 1).
     
  19. Gazippoman

    Gazippoman New Member

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    I don't know, sorta looks like this one...a northern copperhead.

    And I think #3 is a spot tail minnow. Lanier has em...great spotted bass bait.

    Bill

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  20. kaous

    kaous New Member

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    LOL thats the way i feel man the only snakes that are good are the dead ones.