http://www.fishusa.com/tackleshop/catalog_product.asp?ProductFamilyID=%7BBDF2C7E6%2D1DBD%2D4C5D%2DA9C6%2D653C58A03AFB%7D&i=C20D652BA560495B93BBE2BB2442DF65&fx=1 I have used one of these for a while. About anything you can think of that doesn't stay on a hook well can be tied in these. Grind up your secret recipe and tie it up in a sack. You can get different colors of netting and also add colored floaters to the bag. Works great for liver. Tie a bunch up at home and put them back in the liver tub. Easy to use right on the shore or boat and gives you something to do when the bite is slow.