as i said before me and tracy were invited by a friend to go try and catch some big red drum. let me tell you i have never heard a bait clicker screem like they did when these huge drum hit the bait. it was just like catfishing but in salt water. we ended up catching 2 and lost what we think couldve been a 40 to 50 lber. the ones we caught were 30lb and 35lb. it was awsome and something different to do.