I wont name the place but this is about a spillway here in Ohio. Several years ago while catching bait in a local spillway I witnessed a guy pull in 3 flatheads over 40-lbs, this was broad day light and he was using nightcrawlers, half night crawlers. So I hurried home and got my cat rods, I threw out my net and got some live shad and baited up, I used live shad and cut shad..I got no hits. I n that time I saw seceral other flatheads caught, no 40's but nice fish, they all came on night crawlers. At that time the shad, were so thick in this spillway you could fill a 5 gallon bucket with one throw..Other live bait , gills, carp you name it were abundent. they would not touch them. My son just stopped over this evening he just got back from this spillway. He had a pic on his cell phne he took today of a guy with 3 flats on a rope, weight of the 3 fish was 110-lbs...and he said the guy caught them on pieces of night crawlers. When I get healed up I am gonna get me some worms!!!!!