Smoothies or Virgin Teflon for Penn 209

Discussion in 'Fishing Reel Review' started by turtle1173, Aug 18, 2006.

  1. turtle1173

    turtle1173 New Member

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    I have a couple of Penn 209 reels and I was wanting to see what everyone's experience has been with these upgraded drag washers.

    Also, is there any difference between the smoothies and virgin teflon?

    Thanks
     
  2. turtle1173

    turtle1173 New Member

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    Anyone have any Opinions??
     

  3. catter5000

    catter5000 New Member

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    Shane,I wish someone would respond,I'd like to know the answer to that one myself.Also what about new washers for 500 jigmaster,longbeach 60 and 155 penns? Any opinions please.
     
  4. Netmanjack

    Netmanjack New Member

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    Any drag washer specialist out there?
    Write us an article about them.
    Share what you know.:big_smile
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  5. tspergin

    tspergin New Member

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    Abu has a article in the library I think he has worked with extreme smoothies and carbonex washers
     
  6. shortshank

    shortshank New Member

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    Ok, here's mine. I bought a Penn 209 at a back yard sale about two weeks ago. This purchase drove my collection of Penn 209's to 22. This particular reel was sad. The owner obviously had no concept of how to set the drag because it is the very first one I've ever owned that cranking the star down tight would not stop the line coming out. I called my parts friend to order the standard three washer drag system...after about 2 minutes I agreed to try the replacement up grade Five Teflon washer rig. After replacing all the chrome parts, the stainless steel spool, one bakelite side cover, up grading the drag, it not only looks brand new, it works like new. The up-grade is worth ten times what I gave for it. All you 209 users can relate to the drag not being as smooth as you might like..kinda jerky sometimes under a load, put the Teflon on and it's smooth through any hard chargin, line peeler, you happen to get hooked up with. I intend to replace all mine with the up-grade as required. Oh yah, I replaced the reel seat too.
    JMO
    Don
     
  7. turtle1173

    turtle1173 New Member

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    Don,

    Thans for the information. Are those the virgin teflon washers or what is the "official" name for your upgrade?

    Thanks again!
     
  8. blackhorse83

    blackhorse83 New Member

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    I have a couple of 209's and never have had a reason to have to work on them.
     
  9. shortshank

    shortshank New Member

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    I looked on the package and it doesn't specify what they are except Teflon Drag Washer Up Grade? You won't believe how much smoother the drag is. Under a load maybe 2-3 feet of line would peel off and then it would hesitate for a second and hit another 2-3 feet. Not now! If I'm loosing line, 1ft. or 30ft. it's steady and smooth.
    Glad I Could Help!!
    Don
     
  10. PeZ

    PeZ New Member

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    Im in the prosses of upgrading all my abu's drag washers. o just got done converting a 5600 with anti backlash system to a 5600 c3 with a middle thumb trigger its an awsome real with new bearings. im waiting on new washers and a clicker conversion kit to complete the project just ordered more parts today. will probley put a power handle on it too to make it a fully custom reel. will post pics when done.
     
  11. winston61

    winston61 New Member

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    washers and I like them. It's a simple upgrade. I I also replaced the metal washers with Smoothie products. I been satisfied and got a very smooooth drag.
     
  12. Bobpaul

    Bobpaul New Member

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    I know you get virgin wool from ugly sheep, but where do you get virgin teflon?

    What's the difference between that and teflon that's been around the block a few times?
     
  13. peewee williams

    peewee williams New Member

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    You said it.Virgin Teflon Ain;t been around the block a few times.I think that you already knew that.Heh,heh.peewee-williams
     
  14. mwmuck

    mwmuck New Member

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    I'm new to the site folks but not new to the Penn's and Abu's. As for the TFE vs. Carbontex debate...the TFE will last almost forever but so will the carbon laced washers. I surf fish alot along with catfishing and I have used Shimano drag grease or Cal's drag grease for years on the standard HT-100 drags from Penn. There is no hesitation and it is smooth. The HT-100's are cheaper, they are the proper thickness and, if you back off of the drag when you put the reels up between fishin' trips, they will last a long time.
     
  15. janton311

    janton311 New Member

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    Thanks for the info guys...I just bought my first 2 penn reels yesterday...
     
  16. Anguluva

    Anguluva New Member

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    HT100 drag washers are made by Penn for Penn reels and they are real smooth and long lasting. Cant go wrong with them. They should have the size that fits your Penn reel.