Those things are alot of fun to pass time with while waiting for flathead bite time. I can sit and catch 20 or so 10-12 inchers in an hour! BUT... Where's the bigger guys at in shallow rivers? I'd like to find a group of 1 and 2 pounders like I did the smaller ones.:big_smile: Do the bigger ones school up like that? Man, I haul them baby smallies in left and right with a twister tail on a jig head.