I just bought my wife a brand new shimano 4500 baitrunner reel off ebay earlier this week for 94.00 shipping included. Today I bought a 9' big water ugly stik to put it on for 54.99 plus tax at bass pro. I had a 45.00 gift card so I only paid 10.00 plus tax for the rod. I figured I saved about 36.00 between the rod and reel. The reel was on the front porch when we got home from the movies late this afternoon, she was surprised when I told her it was for her. She couldn't get the hang of baitcasters, and she was using rhino spinning outfits. The problem was the rhino reels couldn't handle the weight of the sinker and baits when we fished the river. So I bought her an outfit that can handle the weight of sinkers and bait. Needless to say she is happy with her new rod and reel.