Question about BIG fish...

Discussion in 'MISSOURI RIVERS TALK' started by RIVER-RAT, Jun 18, 2007.

  1. RIVER-RAT

    RIVER-RAT New Member

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    I went out last Wednesday and really got into em, I launched at around 9:45pm and pulled out around 1:00am. In those few hours, I boated 15 fish, however the biggest was only around 16 pounds and the smallest was around 9 pounds. It was alot of fun though, still waiting to get into those bigguns though, still can't seem to boat me a fish over 25 pounds...Any ideas? I have no problems getting fish in the ranges of 10-18 pounds but I want to start landing the BIG fish.

    For those of you that have landed these BIG fish (40-70lbs), do they school with these smaller fish or hang out by themselves, or other fish their own size? I have boated alot of fish yet still seem to have trouble finding the fish in this size range... Am I doing something wrong? Am I not fishing in the right spots, for example not fishing the proper structure. The fish I caught on Wednesday were in very swift current and about 36 feet deep, I had 14 ounce weights on in order to be on the bottom. I have tried the "bigger the bait, bigger the fish" yet still seem to catch the fish that weigh in the teens.

    Any ideas or suggestions?
     
  2. brad kilpatrick

    brad kilpatrick New Member

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    just keep putting time on the water the big boys will come. just consider the fish We really want to catch are usally less then 5% of the population
     

  3. Seth

    Seth Active Member

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    Atleast you are having some fun catching those nice fish. Most guys lately have been getting skunked with this spawn in full swing.
     
  4. Dreadnaught

    Dreadnaught New Member

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    And that percentage is dropping every year!!! Just keep at it, your time will come!
     
  5. Grumper

    Grumper New Member

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    Some buddies of mine went out here this morning, and really got into 'em too. Nothing over about 15lbs. though. They were fishing some dykes that are finally above the water. They said almost all the fish they caught were caught on the upside of the dyke toward the shallows. He cleaned three fish, and he said that none of them had any eggs in them. So I'm guessing that they were males, perhaps guarding eggs,? or females that have already spawned. Hopefully the spawn will be over soon.
     
  6. slipbobber

    slipbobber New Member

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    just have to figure out where there spawning and put it in there face>>>> AND RELEASE THEM.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. TeamWhiskers

    TeamWhiskers New Member

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    Hang in there buddy.. Your time will come and hit you at the least expected moment. There is a whole list of excuses that they perhaps are not hitting. From Spawning to lock jaw, River heights to thunderstorm activity. Your hooks arent sharp enough, not the right weight, skipjack isnt bloody enough.. forgot the Mickey Bobbers even.. You can go on and on.. The key is to just hang in there and keep at it. You are doing very well from since I met and fished with you. Sit on them poles and play the right rock n roll as I have faith in ya that you will catch many trophys as you keep at it and are out there on the water. Just dont loose your confidence as this is the worse downfall of all anglers. Dont second guess yourself as you are doing the right thing.. Just be patient and your time will come!
    Vince
     
  8. cpalombo

    cpalombo New Member

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    You have my respect Bill. Mike and were out for 7 hours almost at the same time and only got two. 15 fish is great. You keep up those numbers, your odds will be much higher than most guys in getting a few of the big ones.

    One thing I noticed about learning how to fish in specialised ways (like catching big 40+ catfish or other big mature fish species). The first one is the hardest. The rest come quickly.

    I have felt this threshold fishing brook trout, salmon, walleye, pike, and perch. What ever little tidbit(s) of knowlege you stumble onto to get the first, opens the door for the rest.

    You will get um. Just wait for the first big dawg.

    CP
     
  9. Cuz

    Cuz New Member

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    I think you will find that with the blues they tend to school with other similiar sized fish. Doesnt surprise me that you got into a few that all weighed about the same. Whats a real blast is to hit 25-30 fish between 20 and 30 pounds like we did at Cannelton at the begining of the year. I've found that I usually find my biggest fish schooled up together just like the little ones. When I hit a 40 pounder or two I'll fish that spot extremely hard, and stay there awhile as I know that 60 and above is usually right there with them. I've never had luck catching big one's when i'm catching dinks. They just dont seem to swim together. Your doing things right if you are finding fish though. A 40 pound fish and above is a special fish and they dont come very often. Once you fish the river "alot", you will learn which spots might produce a large fish, and that spot will be good year after year after year. I happen to know a really good hole just upriver from the dam in Alton that has been known to produce several 50 pound fish and above over the past years. How much money you got? :big_smile:
     
  10. Kutter

    Kutter New Member

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    I hate to correct you, Cuz, but there are two spots. One very close and one a few miles further upriver. Details? Hmmm, baby needs a new set of shoes ya know.
     
  11. SkipEye

    SkipEye Well-Known Member

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    Hey Cuz and Kutter........... Ummmmmmmmmm I think you guys might be talking about MY two spots. PM me the gps coordinates and I'll let you know if you are fishing the same holes that I am.:haha:
     
  12. Kutter

    Kutter New Member

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    Oh, we could send you some GPS coordinates alright, but ONLY if you promise to go to those EXACT locations. Hmmmm?
    :lol:
     
  13. TeamWhiskers

    TeamWhiskers New Member

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    I dont think I would want to assume the liability for the GPS coordinates for a few of my holes either. Very dangerous water and I am not sure that I would want to go there with just any boat. Kutter thinks those fog devils are bad, I would hate to see the look on his face as my boat even has a tough time handling one of them.
     
  14. worm

    worm New Member

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    I have only been on the mississippi a couple of times. But here on the missouri if your fishing up on a sand bar, the big ones will usually not be feeding with the dinks.(would you have dinner with something that might eat you) Sometimes we wait them out, other times we might slide out ot the outside edge of the bar and fish a little deeper. Other times we will pull anchor and FLOAT!!! down river a few hundred feet. IF YOU TURN ON THE MOTOR YOUR GOING TO SPOOK THOSE BIGS ONES OFF THAT BAR.
     
  15. backedde

    backedde New Member

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    well my bank account is not real big and my wife just took the check book and went to walmart so iam sure i will be broke when she is done . but i have a coupel of good kids that will work hard and are real good bait catcher .i would even throw in the wife she is a great cook with out the check book to know were big ones hang out . lol .if the wife is a problem i guess i will keep her.
     
  16. TeamWhiskers

    TeamWhiskers New Member

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    Anyone ever notice that they will always offer the wife and kids but not the dog and good mushroom patch? Wasnt there a country song about this?
     
  17. cpalombo

    cpalombo New Member

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    Ha!

    Do your wife or kids do drywall? I have a basement to do, and my 3 year old just does not use a trowel very well yet (I have her practice 5 hours a day, but she is just not there yet. So disapointing.).

    If I were Amish, my kids would be guiding a plow in a year and bringing in 20% more income each. Instead, I am not Amish and I get in trouble with the boss when I put my kids to work in my cubicle creating business plans and returning calls to doctors.

    Life is so unfair. Where do you go to apply for Amish-hood?
     
  18. Kutter

    Kutter New Member

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    Chris, of course you would have to give up that nice boat!
     
  19. micus

    micus New Member

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    Life is so unfair. Where do you go to apply for Amish-hood?
    :lol:​

    I think you would have to give up your boat. Why not become a hillbilly? Then you could put your kid to work.:wink:
     
  20. cpalombo

    cpalombo New Member

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    I think I can do both - become Amish and keep my boat (the Queen Mary)...

    What I need to do is apply to join one of the newer hipper Amish families, the ones with the old cars and the health plan. They are allowed to use boats (must be aluminum riveted rather than "devil-glass"), and you are allowed to use an outboard (must be a 2-stroke without EFI because the devil loves the number 4, especially as it relates to engine cylinders).

    Since I have DC current running all the lights rather than AC, I should get it past the new extended family just fine.

    Brother Eli Hezekiah Yoder Palombo