Its rained all day here and i have read for hours on this bait stuff but i have not seen anyone using any grapes. Go to Walmarts and get a bunch of plastic grapes in the craft section. Last ones cost me $1.97. Must be 50 in a bunch. Try an get the softer ones. Pull off a grape and stick a hook down beside the hole in the top and on out the bottom, i use a #6 barbed back eagle claw hook. Use a large set of toenail clipers and clip a couple of small holes about midway up on the grape. Dont get too low or the current will wash the bait out faster. When i first started using them i bought lil-stinker stink bait in the tubes and injected it into the grape through the hole where the grape came off the bunch. After reading all you fellows stink bait concoctions on here i been mixing my own bait. I use a blender and mix it to about the consistancy of cup grease. to get it into the grape i use an old plastic injector that came with a computer ink refill kit. It had a metal tip for a needle that pulls out leaving the tip about the size of the hole in the top of the grape. Just suck up some of the bait mix an inject it into the grape. I let it overflow through the two small holes an then use the end of the injector to smear it around to cover any plastic taste that might be on the grape. One could soak the whole bunch of grapes in garlic or anise oil before ever starting to eliminate any foriegn oders. This not only works but it works good. If you dont catch fish then its not the grapes. Try a different bait inside. We take fresh bought livers and only add crisco lard to hold it inside longer and then blend an pore it right back in the liver cup an keep it in a cooler to retain freshness. Should you reel it in an you think it needs more bait just give it another shot. Its eaiser that panty hose or thread at least for me. I use to use baloons but the grapes work out better. I mixed up 3 different baits from you fellows list today with some modifications that i plan to try tomorrow night. If one of them works out real good ill post the results. May as well be fishing because when the wife gets a smell of the car shed where her car is parked she aint gonna let me back in the house for awhile. It was raining, heck couldnt run a blender in the rain. When it comes to fishing bait gets priority. Thanks to all you folks for all the good tips i been getting off here.