Phil Washburn. You and I seem kindred spirits. You seem like the kind of guy like me who goes to bed at night and wonders just why we are like we are. I could pick out a couple of others on here, but you seem like one I could take in a square up. Just compare my avatar to yours. You ain't got a chance. A deal I propose. The forum lately has been discussing macabre things like cancer, bodies found, rocky mountain spotted fever, wives and chicken livers. I would like to lighten it up because this is a family forum. We wouldn't want to offend anyone under the age of 23. Daily (well almost daily, or sometimes anyhow) I will put something up for your perusal. An intelligent thread starter, family orientated. No religion allowed. Answer me if you are of a mind and if not that is OK to. You have to come up with something occasionally for me to digest. I will start it with this question: If the population of China (1.6 billion) invaded the shores of California next week, how many Marines would it take to stop them? Later, John If the moderators grab my ear and smack me across the nose with a yardstick this won't go any further. Nuns anyhow.