i was looking at Chef Jim's Penn Reels website, and noticed the Penn 85, which he describes as a "Good economical, sturdy reel for big catfish." No level wind, slow retrieve ratio, no frills. Pretty common on ebay, and go pretty cheap. i looked at the schematic drawing, and they look like the model T of fishing reels! almost no parts. anyway, i'm thinking i need to try one out just for schitzengiggles. anybody out there use one? ps. please don't bid on the one on ebay i'm going after.