penn 320gt2

Discussion in 'Fishing Reel Review' started by tank3544, Sep 24, 2005.

  1. tank3544

    tank3544 New Member

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    i picked up this reel about 3 years ago solely for the purpose of my once a year flathead trip to the allegheny river .. i must say this reel so not very condusive to the live bait with big weight environment .. its simply too bulky and for lack of a better word its "harsh" .. its big, heavy, and no matter how you set the brake, if you put a bluegill on your line with a 2oz weight you better have a knife handy to cut out your birdnest

    i have however found this reel to be quite useful fishing for big blues on the james .. it seems a nice big 8oz weight, a huge piece (or whole) shad, and the brake torqued down as tight as it will go is just the ticket for this reel

    if you're not targeting 50-100lb fish this reel is wayyy too much for you .. catching a 20lb cat is as simple as reeling .. no pumping of the rod involved and surely no excitement in the catch
     
  2. Abu

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    Hi Tank3544. I have a Penn 320GT2 and really like it. Like you said though, it is for big fish and I target big flats. I agree, it is heavy and bulky, weighs 19.5 ounces without line. Weight does not matter to me, after I cast it, the rod and reel sit in a rodholder. It holds 320 yards of 20 pound mono but I use 100lb. Power Pro with an 80lb. mono leader on an Extra Heavy action rod. I turn the brake off as much as I can and use big bait and big sinkers. It casts a good ways but is rough on the thumb without using its brake. When you catch a flat 20 lbs. and under it feels small and you can bring him right to the bank on top the water if you want. The 320GT2 is built like a tank (no pun intended). Keep up the posts on your reels, they have lots of good information to help others get an idea of a reel before they go buy a huge or small reel when another reel would be better suited for their type of fishing. Abu
     

  3. Crucial

    Crucial New Member

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    You two are more manly man than I am :0a1:
    The 310Gti is the largest reel I could ever imagine using for anything not in the deep ocean hahah...
    But then again I am a little guy, with even smaller hands. I think the squidder is a large reel :confused:
     
  4. tank3544

    tank3544 New Member

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    haha are you kiddin me? my hands are tiny!

    i agree with you abu .. i don't care how big or heavy it is .. once i cast it out it just sits there anyway

    also i'd rather have a reel capable of bringing in a 100lb fish should that ever happen!
     
  5. Crucial

    Crucial New Member

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    A reel capable of bringing in a 100lb fish? Like this 137lb tuna cought on my favorite little toy of a reel, or these 70lb sturgen :cool:
     

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    tank3544 New Member

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    if that's not a plug for a product i dont know what is :D
     
  7. Crucial

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    Actually, its not a plug at all.. its a point.. the tackle doesn’t land the fish, the experience of the fisherman does. The commercial tuna fishermen of yester year landed tuna well in excess of 100lbs with a pole and rope and no reel at all... today most fishermen need a reel that weighs as much as the bloody fish they are trying to catch, with two speeds and a gear box that looks like it was taken off a rock crawler.... basically a manual truck wench on a rod :rolleyes:

    More 100+lb fish have been caught on the little $60 squidder than anyone can count, and fewer fishermen have ever caught a 100lbs fish than ever will admit to it.
     
  8. Abu

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    Crucial... Flathead fishing in alot of the snag infested waters I fish in is a different world than the ocean. If you don't win the first few seconds of the battle with a huge flathead trying to wrap you around a big ol' snag you have lost the whole fight. I need to turn their heads my way and in a hurry, experience doesn't help in my type of situations. If I am fishing open water a 100lb. fish on 10lb. test would be more fun than a barrel o' monkeys. :)
    Abu
     
  9. Crucial

    Crucial New Member

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    Hey Abu,
    I'm not even referring to ocean fishing in any way. You'd need that 320 full of 10 lb test line to land a 100lbs tuna and it would still spool ya :) Besides, mono has stretch and weight... even a small fish would snap a 10lb line if it was allowed to run much beyond 300yds. So thats not even a realistic analogy, or expectation.

    Out of the 30-sum+ years i've been fishing only about 3 have been ocean fishing, so Im no expert on the ocean... but this isnt an ocean forum so we ok :D

    Expierence means far more in the conditions you've just outlined than they do in the ocean anyway. You dont want a fish to run right? So why would you need 300-400yds of line? I've only known of a hand full of people that can cast 100yds (in average fishing conditions with bait) let alone 300.... so what is the need for a reel with that kind of capacity? If the cat runs, its going into a deep hole or rats nest of logs and what ever cover it can find so your not getting it out anyway...
    My point is, a reel like your favorite Ambassadeurs (6500-7000), matched with a good stiff rod and a quality line will actually due just fine, if not better in getting that fish turned around and headed your way in a quick second. The size of the reel dosent make it a good tackle item, the functionality and practicality does.
    For what it's worth, a lower gear ratio would be ideal for your specific situation ;) And not all ocean fishing is out in the blue yonder...in fact the majority of the common fish are found in deep sharp rock jettys, natural rock coral formations and in dense kelp bed.. ocean fish like cover just like freshwater fish do.
     
  10. Abu

    Abu New Member

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    Check the gear ratio on a 320GT2. I don't need 300 yards of line and I don't want to cast 300 yards and I am not worried about getting spooled from a catfish of any size. I need the good solid strong drag of the 320GT2 that doesn't slip repeatedly to pull them my way. Give your Ambassadeur 6500 and 7000 a test for max drag strength and then give a 320GT2 the same test and tell me which one is going to turn the fish quicker. Beef up the drag in a 6500 and 7000 all you want and the 320GT2 will blow it away out of the box. The 320GT2 does just what I want it to do for me at a reasonable cost. It gets the job done for my purposes. I will do what works for me and use what I know that works best for me. You are correct, this is not an ocean forum or surf fishing forum for fancy overpriced reels, this is a catfishing forum. The next time I go flathead fishing I will just take a pole and a rope, hell I don't even need a reel. Maybe we need a tuna forum?
    Abu
     
  11. Crucial

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    It’s slower than the abu's for sure, but for down rigger reel (which is what that reel is intended for not bait casting) its a little on the high side. The point was ANY lower gear ratio reel would suit that purpose as well if not better than big ole 320, the Squidder and Jigmaster are the first two that come to mind for "bullet proof" (as some one here put it) reels that are half the size and weight, with nearly the same line capacity and will actually cast nearly trouble free because that’s what they were meant to do.

    That’s very true, the Abu's have always been criticized for being underpowered on the drag. But again, this is a case of people trying to use a reel for something it wasn’t meant for. Simply put, if the drag is your concern get any reel with a lever drag system. The star drag is not a strong mechanism designed for maximum drag applications. That’s why the lever drag has been used for BIG fish for Decades (salt and fresh water alike).

    And no one said your wrong for doing what works for you. So why the defensive disposition?
    Well I’m glad we got that clear, so I'll appreciate it if you don’t make references to my experience as if the only thing I've ever done is let 100lb fish run the great blue with 10lb test line. I've been fishing cats on Kentucky Lake, lake Barkley, the Ohio River, Lake Cumberland and the such since I was too young to remember. I don’t know what the reference for "fancy over priced reels" was about because I use the same reels as you do with a few exceptions :rolleyes: But like you, I'll use what I know works, and what will give me the most benefit and use for my money. There are no better reels on the market for the same price point than Penn, Abu, and Avet.. and frankly all of those reels are in the same price point when your looking at the stronger, larger reels.

    Humm.... actually in case you haven’t heard people do jugline, limbline and trot line and flats are generally the primary target for just such techniques.
    And this place does have a forum where any other fishing can be discussed, in fact I've been reading over a nice discussion on surf fishing with fancy over priced reels :p

    There is no need to get defensive when I simply agree with the criticisms that you've pointed out in that reel. Will it "work" ? Sure it will work, so will an international or 2speed accurate with twin drag but are there better options? Yes there are.
    If you like the reel that’s great, its actually a damn good reel.... but if you say "I need a hell-for-strong" drag and I say "why don’t you get a lever" don’t go making personal assumptions that all I know is salt water and surf fishing because I recommend something that your apparently not experienced with. It has nothing to do with salt water or surf fishing or fancy over priced reels.. its just a suggestion for the best (or at least a better) tool for the job.

    I'll do my best to refrain from bragging about or recomending my little over priced fancy reels since this is a cat fishing forum. I guess some one needs to email the guy on the avet website holding his trophy cat cought with an SX that fancy over priced reels arent meant for catfish. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Abu

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    Good deal Crucial. Thank you for the discussion. I have 0% experience saltwater fishing. I know you have plenty of experience and you know your reels. My point was the 320GT2 was best suited for me for the price in certain flathead situations. Didn't mean to rattle your chain so hard and meant no disrespect. I am off to the Ohio River with my Penns and Ambassadeurs. Talk to you later and I have learned from our discussion. No hard feelings and I apologize if I have offended you with some of my rude remarks. Abu
     
  13. Crucial

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    Hey no harm no foul man :D

    I wish I could head to the Ohio :crying:
    I need to get the bloody H.e.-double-L out of Cali