Here is my story...... I have been deer hunting for 6 years, sitting through the cold, the snow, the heat, the rain, sitting for hours and seeing nothing. all the things you do waiting for that deer to come in your sights. Sneaking into the woods before day light, leaving after dark, endless scent stoppers, etc etc. To never even get my sites on even a fork or doe. Well, this boy stepped into my sites and down he went. 1 shot, he ran about 30 yards and was dead in his tracks. He green scored 189, but after deductions he came in at 153, 11 points. I ranked 3rd in the state for Muzzy. I love my optima, wouldn't trade it for anything. I have also taken an antelope with it. Clean quick kill.