Pay attention Oklahoma.....New blue catfish regulation is under fire

Discussion in 'LOCAL OKLAHOMA TALK' started by HOLD-ACCOUNT, Apr 2, 2009.

  1. HOLD-ACCOUNT

    HOLD-ACCOUNT New Member

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    Oklahoma has recently passed a new catfish regulation allowing a angler to keep 15 blue catfish per day with only one of those over 30 inches. This new regulation is a change......Right now anglers can keep 15 blue catfish of any size per day. Statewide there has been much support of the new regulation. Very recently 1 state representative Mr. Ben Sherrer has opposed the new reg. and had a house resolution put in place to get the new regulation overturned. He is moving very quickly so don't hesitate to get involved now.

    If you are in support of the new regulation allowing a angler to keep 1 blue a day over 30" in OK please contact our representatives and let the word of the OK catfish angler be heard.

    Here are the email addresses and here is the letter I sent them. Pass this email list along to all that might be concerned and have them too speak up. These are the facts.........Oklahoma Wildlife Dept needs your help now. If nothing else, just forward the OK Reps. my letter and let them look at it again.........:wink:

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    Hello and thank you for reading my email,

    I want all the OK representatives to be informed and be aware of what you are getting ready to vote on. Please review the facts I have put forth. Contact our states fisheries biologists at the ODWC if you need to check facts or references. The fisheries division employees will be happy to visit with you about the new Blue Catfish regulation change that Rep. Sheerer is opposing with the House Joint Resolution 1047.
    House Joint Resolution 1047 will strike down all the findings of the Oklahoma Dept. of Wildlife’s 5 year study on blue catfish in our state. It also strikes down the Wildlife Committee’s vote to move forward with the new blue catfish regulation change put forth by our Dept of Wildlife.
    Please know the facts on our state’s age and growth data for blue catfish before you vote. Blue Catfish are very slow growing catfish species. On average, it takes 13 to 16 years to grow a 30 inch/10 pound Blue Catfish here in OK’s lakes and rivers. Please ask yourself….Why do we need to harvest more than one 30 inch 10 lb. Blue Catfish daily when we also get to keep 14 other Blue Catfish up to 10 lbs and 30 inches long? This is very important public data put forth by our own wildlife dept for everyone to review.
    Here is a fact sheet that was sent to me from the ODWC after I requested updated information regarding the status of the new blue regulation change. I became concerned after I saw there was an opposition to the regulation change mounting. I became aware of this after reading a recent post on an OK based fishing forum, and after reading the story in the OKC Daily Oklahoman newspaper regarding the new regulation. I personally helped the biologists in the study and want to see the blue catfish in our state protected if that’s what the states biologists think we need to do. My opinion is based on the findings of the study. Here is the latest news….
    “The latest news is, the House Wildlife Committee voted to oppose (7-1) House Resolution 1047 that would rescind ODWC's blue catfish regulation (15-fish daily limit, only 1 of which can be over 30"). The Resolution then went to the House Rules Committee for a vote. During that time the Rules Committee only heard from Rep. Sherrer, author of the Resolution 1047, butdeclined to allow the House Wildlife Committee and ODWC's representatives speak in opposition to the Resolution 1047. The representatives of the Rules Committee voted to pass the Resolution 1047 (7-2) which will rescind the new blue catfish regulation put forth by the state’s biologists. The Resolution 1047will now go to the floor for a vote.
    A recent petition, signed by 800 anglers, opposed to the new blue catfish regulation was given to Rep. Sherrer. However, the petitionstated that the ODWC’s new blue catfish regulation wasonly going to allow the harvest of 1 blue catfish over 30 inches. The petitiondid not state that the angler’s daily limit would be unchanged; thereby allowing OK angler’s to harvest up to 14 additional blue catfish under 30"

    Please review the facts from the OK Blue Catfish study……Here is a fact sheet on the blue catfish studies provided by The Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Fisheries Division.




    JUSTIFICATION FOR RESTRICTIVE HARVEST



    REGULATIONS ON BLUE CATFISH



    Angler interest in catching "trophy-sized" blue catfish has been increasing nationwide. A survey of blue catfish anglers indicated that 75% of anglers were in favor of developing trophy fisheries but only 2% of management agencies managed for trophy fisheries. Increasing popularity of "trophy" fisheries has lead to formation of catfish tournaments and out-of-state anglers traveling to Oklahoma to fish for large blue catfish. Due to increased angling pressure on large blue catfish, the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation initiated research studies on the status of blue catfish populations in reservoirs.

    · Biologists collected population information over a 5-year period on 13 reservoirs statewide. Results of these studies indicate:
    o blue catfish growth rates are slow statewide: 13-16 years to reach 30 inches; 10 years to reach 25 inches (6 lbs.)
    o growth rates are highly variable; the largest fish aged (Texoma) was 102 lbs and 29 years old; the oldest fish aged (R.S. Kerr) was 34 years old and weighed 6 lbs
    o numbers of fish are high in most reservoirs but the populations are dominated by small fish (less than 5 lbs); less than 1% of the blue catfish in Oklahoma lakes are 30 inches or larger
    · Game Wardens conducted a 2-year statewide creel survey to determine the numbers and sizes of blue catfish being harvested by Oklahoma anglers. Current statewide regulations are15 channel and/or blue catfish, in aggregate, with no size restriction.
    o blue catfish outnumbered channel catfish harvested 3:1
    o less than 2% of catfish anglers caught their daily creel limit (15)
    o only 1 in 5 anglers catching blue catfish caught one over 30 inches
    o over 50% of the anglers that caught blue catfish over 30 inches caught more than 1 fish over 30 inches
    o 8% of the blue catfish harvested were greater than 30 inches (as compared to less than 1% in the population)
    In efforts to maintain the quality of catfish angling in Oklahoma and maintain the numbers of large catfish in the state's lakes, the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation felt the need to restrict the harvest of blue catfish over 30 inches in length to 1 per angler per day. At the current rate of harvest (large blue catfish being removed at a rate 16 times higher than the abundance in the lakes) biologists feel that we will not be able to maintain the high quality catfish angling currently available to the state's anglers. This regulation still allows catfish anglers to keep a large number of fish (15) less than 30 inches and, in a good day of fishing, anglers can keep more than 50 lbs of filets.






    I hope you have found this email informative and factual. Please look at the last sentence in the new justification for regulation change. Anyone who needs more than 50 lbs of catfish fillets a day is doing something with their catfish other than eating them. My family couldn’t get close to eating 50 pounds of catfish a month, and I eat plenty of catfish, have for years. I will never run out of catfish for my friends and family to enjoy with ODWC’S new regulation change. Let’s get real……How much is 50 lbs of blue catfish fillets? Let’s put 50 lbs of catfish fillets into a perspective that anyone with any common sense can understand……. 50 lbs. of pure blue catfish meat (fillets) is enough to feed a family of 5 at least 10 times per week on 1 angler’s daily limit. Again, that’s 5 people, one pound of catfish per person, eating catfish 10 times a week. This is totally legal under the states new regulation change using an angler’s legal daily creel limit. Just imagine how much an anger can accumulate if they had success like this catfishing 4 days out of the month! That’s a pretty liberal regulation compared to many, many other states catfish creel limits across the country.
    Please ask Representative Sheerer or any other Representative that’s voting yes on House Joint Resolution 10 47 this one simple question. What are the residents you are representing doing with all that catfish meat if they need over 50 lbs of blue catfish per day? I would personally like to know, so if you get an answer from Rep. Sheerer please let me know what that answer is, as he has declined to answer this in other email’s sent to him regarding this subject.
    If you have any further questions, please visit with the state Representatives on the OK Wildlife Committee. Rep. Phil Richardson and the committee are informed and understand the findings of the ODWC blue catfish study. Please vote NO on House Joint Resolution 1047.


    THANK YOU........Jeff Williams
     
  2. Dirtdobber

    Dirtdobber Guest Staff Member

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    Emails going out. Thank for bringing this to our attention.
     

  3. AwShucks

    AwShucks New Member

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    Just sent an e-mail to Rep. Jason Murphey requesting he speak with the ODW biologists before the resolution gets to the floor. Thing I don't fully understand is the thing is a resolution, not a bill, so I don't think it would be binding on ODW.
     
  4. Trevor1

    Trevor1 New Member

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    Thank goodness for Ben Sherrer. A politician who actually listens to the real catfishermen of this state.
     
  5. Trevor1

    Trevor1 New Member

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    Team Catfish:

    What makes you think they are fishing everyday? They could be like a lot of other fishermen who only get out a few times a year. Some people have jobs and can't go fishing whenever they want. It's obvious that you catch 15 blue cats evertime you go fishing, but I know that most catfishermen don't catch anywhere near that many, just read the survey you posted, less than 2% of the anglers are catching the 15 fish limit. 1 in 5 anglers catch a fish over 30 inches, that's 20%. So it's more likely a catfishermen would catch 2 fish over 30 inches, before he catches anywhere near 15 bluecats. The survey is very contradictive, how does the department know that only 1 percent of the blue cats are over 30in. Because that makes no sense, if 20% of the anglers are catching them.
     
  6. Phil Washburn

    Phil Washburn New Member

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    Jeff, i agree with Trevor here. i have never taken home 50lbs of cats. came close twice in my life. you are feeding family AND friends with your catch of cats and you want to lecture me and Trevor on what to keep? i think you're a little out of line on this one my friend.

    the problem isn't with the current limits. the prob is folks like you that keep enough to feed the village.:wink:
     
  7. mudcreeker

    mudcreeker New Member

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    Although it is a good effort, the emails you send to the house or senate regarding any kind of issue like this are never read or considered. You might as well be pissin upwind as to waste time sending email to elected officials. My brother works in the Senate and confirmed that it is a waste of time to send emails, mail or phone calls supporting/not supporting an issue. How to voice your opinion? Ummm... I guess don't elect them in the first place? I don't know... But it does no good to send email.
     
  8. HOLD-ACCOUNT

    HOLD-ACCOUNT New Member

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    I am not lecturing anyone. I am telling you I have seen a problem first hand and feel like the ODWC is on the right track. If you are meat fishing that’s OK I eat a lot of catfish myself. I am interested in why there is sharp decline of cats over 20 LBS here on Grand Lake. I don't know about the rest of the state but I know this lake pretty darn well and we don't have a surplus of large adult blue catfish here like we had 10 years ago.

    I do not want to get involved and I wish the state had no reason to do the study......But weather you like it or not there is a problem here at Grand Lake and its not going away.

    As far as not getting a response from the emails to the Reps......I have already got responses from our Reps on this matter......

    Message boards are probably not the right place to post this kinda stuff cause folks get very hot....very quickly without good conversation on the subject.......If I pi$$ed anyone off.......Sorry, I am just the messenger.
     
  9. AwShucks

    AwShucks New Member

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    I have allready received three emails from my representative. He admitted he was one of the reprsentatives which passed the bill out of committee to the full floor. He now sounds as though he wished he had done his homework before that decision was made as he is going to look slightly foolish to vote and talk against the resolution now.

    The thing is, I don't think I'm responding due to a fever to protect the catfish. The guys that did the study are professional biologists employed by the State of Oklahoma. These guys don't have a personal ax to grind with the catfishermen within the state. The took their findings and recommendations to the Wildlife Department because that is the way they interputted the data.

    You may want to be the hog and continue to fish however you want to, and thats all right. But, on my part, if I ever see you get a citation, your sure gonna receive one good belly laugh.
     
  10. grandfisher

    grandfisher Member

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    Thanks Jeff for taking the initiative and supporting this new change. I agree with this new regulation, and I hope it sticks. It will do nothing but improve the quality of fishing for everyone. The guy with the full time career and a family doesn't get to go fishing very often. When he does, he'll still be able to bring home 14 10-15 lbers and one 30 lber. That would be a great day of fishing by anyone's standard. The average rod and reel fisherman isn't likely to do this often unless they are committed fishermen. However, the biggest advantage I see to this regulation is that trotlines and juglines will not be responsible for removing AS MANY big fish. Trotlines are extremely effective at harvesting large numbers of very large cats. I have trotlined and jugged before and it is fun but it can be too effective. Especially for people who live at the lake and can leave the lines out all year and run them daily. For eatin, catfish less than 10 lbs are perfect. I regret to say that I have cleaned a 40 lb cat. It's like butcherin a hog! I could have cleaned 5 10lbers in the same amount of time. I have developed a new philosophy and now I will glady abide by the new reg. even if it is overturned. I don't condem trotlines, juglines or fillin your freezer with fillets, but it would be nice to hang into more large cats. Good luck and happy fishin to all!
     
  11. South Grand Laker

    South Grand Laker New Member

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    i agree with the new regs, but i don't think here on grand there's ever been a surplus of large blue cats on grand lake, and i also know this lake as much as anybody, and fish it alot, including grand river and hudson, hudson doesn't produce blue cats hardly ever over 35lbs, grand however it's a bit larger but it rarely produces fish over 45lbs maybe 1 or 2 everyfew years of rod n reel fishmerman that i know, and i don't think or from what i can recall it ever being any better 10 years ago, still about the same, the studies all show the growth rate of blue cats varie from water to water, it's just gonna take longer for our big fish to become bigger big fish
     
  12. ccat

    ccat Well-Known Member

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    Jeff,
    I agree with you and all the effort you are putting out to not just to voice your opinion, but to educate the Oklahoma public on this regulation if they didn't already know it. If anyone should know Grand, you should.
    We don't have this issue here in Arkansas, but I fish for catfish more on Grand now than I do on Arkansas lakes and own a non-resident fishing license for Oklahoma. We all know it takes a long time for a fish to grow to 30 inches, or even more......duh, so why take those fish out of a lake and not let them spawn fish that have a better chance to becoming 30 inch fish or bigger in their lifespan.
    Fisheries biologists have said a 10 pound bass has a different set of instincts than that of a smaller bass. It takes a lot of luck, but some instinct by a big bass to grow to that size and not be taken to a skillet. I am sure the same applies to the Blue catfish, as well as other species of fish. What does it prove to bring big catfish home to clean and eat when most people know that the smaller fish taste better. (That is my opinion and I am sure the opinion of a lot of other people out there too)
    I wish more people would load their boats with cameras instead of loading their boats with every big fish they catch. We all know a picture is worth a thousand words....? who really wants to hear a thousand words about 4 fish over 30 pounds they caught and brought home anyway?
    Good luck to this regulation. We all know it won't make everyone happy no matter what way it is set into law. If it is set at 14 under and 1 over, the people against this law will someday see their big fish increase in size and numbers and will maybe realize what all this fuss was about.
     
  13. Big Sam

    Big Sam Well-Known Member

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    As for being a rod & reel man i can say that almost every time i hit the water i can muster up 50lbs of fish easily:eek:oooh: If i did not have self-restraint & respect for the larger fish me & most my friends that fish with me could hurt the big blue population easily...I am like ccat i fish out of state on Kerr a lot so i do stand a chance of getting a big blue on a regular basis..cause here in arkansas we have commercial fishing, tangle nets hoop nets trotline jugs yo-yo's limblines snaggging you name it :eek:oooh: Our fish size has declined over the years...I support the 30 inch rule and wish we had it over here....:wink:
     
  14. schoonie

    schoonie New Member

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    I know opinions are like..., well you know, but mine is that the ODW science on the matter is solid. It takes so long for these fish to be able to breed, why not let the breeders go and make more babies??? I just cannot buy that the bigger ones taste as good as the 10lbs. and unders. The smaller ones taste so much cleaner. Maybe the folks that eat the bigguns are taste bud challenged ?? Just my $.02
     
  15. AwShucks

    AwShucks New Member

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    I would almost bet that a large number of the big fish removed from the lakes and rivers wind up in the trash, with a head decorating a fence pole. Some people think that just because they "forgot" their camera, it's okay to take the fish home for the pictures.
     
  16. rigrunner(236)

    rigrunner(236) New Member

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    I always release anything over 10lbs. 10lbs. and under are by far the best tasting catfish. I really prefer the 2 to 5 pounders for table fare. Just my .02 worth.:smile2:
     
  17. whiskersister

    whiskersister New Member

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    This is very informative, thank you for your research..........
     
  18. Trevor1

    Trevor1 New Member

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    Looks like the Reg change is on its last legs, the house voted to reject the change, all that's left is the senate. Unless the fishing guides have some big time pull with the senate it's pretty much all over but the crying.
     
  19. AwShucks

    AwShucks New Member

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    Everyone has and is entitled to their opinion in this matter. Far as mine goes, those people who keep the large cats are stealing a resource from the rest of the people who pay for a license and enjoy fishing. The most of them only do it to feed their ego. If they were table fishing they'd keep the small ones and let the large ones go. Nope, they are thieves.
     
  20. CountryHart

    CountryHart New Member

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    Theives seems a bit harsh to me. They purchase lie., tackle and pay taxes the same as anyone else. Personally i prefer smaller fish to eat, but if a man skins a 20 pounder, thats his business as long as the harvest is legal.