Only catching small ones (need advice)

Discussion in 'MISSOURI RIVERS TALK' started by whiskey "n" whiskers, Jun 8, 2007.

  1. whiskey "n" whiskers

    whiskey "n" whiskers New Member

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    I havent been fishing the river but for bout 3 years 2 seriously. This year i have just been catching a lot of little fish. My biggest this year being 14lbs. Im using green sunfish and creek chub for bait. I also only fish from the bank but i got good spots on private land to go on the missouri around farley and parkville. I was wonderin if its just my luck or if i need to 2 somethin different. any advice would be appreciated.
     
  2. TeamWhiskers

    TeamWhiskers New Member

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    It has been a struggle for the past few weeks for all of us. We are on the Spawn right now along with all the high water. Just hang in there is the best advice right now. It will get better here in a few weeks.
     

  3. whiskey "n" whiskers

    whiskey "n" whiskers New Member

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    thanks team whiskers i really appreciate you responding and givin me some hope! Another question i got is a problem ive been having this year is gettin some real line rippers or freight train hits settin the hook (not a circle hook) and either missin the fish or feelin him on there for about 5 to 30 seconds and then the hook comin out of his mouth!
     
  4. TeamWhiskers

    TeamWhiskers New Member

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    This will depend upon what type of hook and how you rig your bait. For instance, if you are using a 5 to 6 inch shad and hooking it through the eyes, perhaps the fish doesnt have it all in his mouth for the hook to be set. You might want to go to a shorter bait by cutting the shad in half and putting on both as so when you do set the hook, the hook will explode the bait so it comes loose and it will set in its mouth. Hope that helps..
     
  5. whiskey "n" whiskers

    whiskey "n" whiskers New Member

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    Thanks team whiskers your a real good man for tellin me your advice. My dad has this ole' river rat friend thats about 88 now and he use to catch huge fish on the river but he wont tell his secerets he said hes takin to the grave. I would thank you the right way so it shows up on your status but i dont know how! sorry sir!
     
  6. TeamWhiskers

    TeamWhiskers New Member

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    Brett.. You just go out and catch a few and post it up here will be thanks enough. Enjoy the Sport of Catfishing and dont hesitate to ask for help. There are years of experience here in BOC and I am sure someone will be more than happy to help you..
     
  7. TeamWhiskers

    TeamWhiskers New Member

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    I would like to expand on this even more. We all miss fish and be honest with yourself. It happens. There are many more reasons why that leaves us at times just scratching our heads and wondering. It can be anywhere from our hook set as how hard to even the type of line we are using. Mono line for instance has the stretch elasticity that you do have to set the hook much harder than you do the “cable fiber” types like Power Pro. This could also have to do with the size and type of your poles. Fast tips, you have to set harder than you do with the Heavy rods.

    What type of rigs are you using. Slip sinkers that the line will slide through or 3 ways where you have to account for the weigh in the hook set. The actual type and design of the hook should be considered. Are you using a single, double/ Tuna hook as they are called or a treble hook. Does the hook tip point in or out like the circle normally points in that a hard hook set will normally just pull the hook out of the mouth. Are the hooks off set like a kahle that will spin into the flesh. Are your hooks sharp or out of the box?

    Current also has something to do with it. Are you fishing directly behind the boat or at an angle in the current where you might have to take up some slack in the lines. Drag set on your reels can have something to do with it. Are you using the primary or secondary clickers as your primary drags should be set at about the line strength and your secondarys perhaps just to hold in the current.

    The actual hooking of the various baits. It is too big, no probably not as you can use a stinger hook if necessary. Are you hooking through the thick skin of a flying carp or the back bone as the bait then will stick to your hook better. Do you take the shell off your shrimp or let the tip of the hook go through the shell or not?

    These are just a few of the excuses and problems that could happen as there are many more. Know your equipment and the capabilities of each component. It is pretty much common sense for most and then again.. Some cats just will not get hooked no matter what. They are out there dinking at it and just eating the gut sacks when you have it hooked through the eyes will show just how picky they can be depending on how hungry they really are vs the type of hit you will get. So don’t get frustrated. Perhaps the solution is simple as you definitely do not want to loose your confidence as then everything appears to start going wrong.
     
  8. whiskey "n" whiskers

    whiskey "n" whiskers New Member

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    I use a lot of times creek chub,green sunfish, and bull head. I use one swivel with the weight on top and bout a 6" to 12" leader. I also use an 8/0 kahle hook. Same thing happen last nite we had bull head for bait and i hooked a real nice fish and had him for about 20 sec. then it felt like my line broke and when i got in i realized my hook just came out of its mouth. I bait underneath the back of the dorcil fin. And we are fishing on the up side of a wing dike.
     
  9. IswallerdaJuneBuG

    IswallerdaJuneBuG New Member

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    Are you clicking your reel over before you set the hook... backlash
     
  10. backedde

    backedde New Member

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    team whiskers i would also like to thank you for taking the time for giving some great advice.
     
  11. FLOAT TRIP WILLIE

    FLOAT TRIP WILLIE Active Member

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    welcome backedde whiskers is full of advice, if you ask any question
    him and about 1000 other members far and near are going to be on with details and thats what make this site so great welcome aboard and good fishing:big_smile::big_smile::big_smile: