I was netting shad for bait at Oak Hollow lake today , You know the ones that are about 3"-6" in length. I casted out the net and brought in a shad it was about 12" and on a second cast I got one about 15". I grew up in Pa on the Delaware river and fished for American shad in the spring run where I got ones in the 20lb range. and I know that several other spicies of shad that get big but the rice shad are the smaller of the spicies. well we have some good cut bait for the bigones.