Ok, I was wrong!

Discussion in 'Gateway Catfishing Club' started by Kutter, Aug 21, 2008.

  1. Kutter

    Kutter New Member

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    Recently, a member mentioned that he was basically run out of the Flam City River Access. Having spoken to both the Water Patrol and a Conservation Agent about this before, I mentioned to the member that the MDC owns the land, City of Arnold manages it & use of the ramp and fishing in the access area was a lawful endeavor which one could not be run out of the park for. Even the MO Conservationist Magazine mentioned that as long as you were using the area for fishing or boat access, you would not have to vacate the area after dark. My head swelled showing off my knowledge of such things! Time to hang my head and backpedal.

    First, I spoke with individual Police Officers who work this area. Then I contacted the MDC in Jefferson City. Then I contacted the Arnold City Administrator. In all this talking, it became readily apparent that times have changed since I originally got my info. MDC now allows the City of Arnold to make whatever rules they desire in regards to Flamm City Access. As of this moment, Flamm City Access ramp is closed one half hour after sunset. If you come back to the ramp later than that to get off the river, you can be ticketed. (Not likely though). I say as of now, because the City Administrator agrees that current regulation is putting an undue hardship on catfishermen who regularly fish late into the night. He is in the process of working with both the Parks Department & with the Police Department to tweek the rules to allow us to use the ramp. I'll let you all know when this has been completed. Sorry for the mix up. I was unaware that MDC had turned over the regulation of the area to Arnold.
     
  2. BKS72

    BKS72 New Member

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    Wow, that must have hurt...:smile2: Thanks for the update!
     

  3. kennylee

    kennylee New Member

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    Kutter, thanks for your diligence and keeping us informed.
     
  4. RIVER-RAT

    RIVER-RAT New Member

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    Wow! Thanks for the information Kutter! I'd Thank you too, but alas I have used my 10!

    That's interesting, do they lock the gates at dark as well? If they do and you come back to the ramp from fishing the Miss., then what do you do? Call the police department and risk getting a ticket?
     
  5. Kutter

    Kutter New Member

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    Well, actually, there isn't a gate. At the moment, the river is so low the whole point is mute.
     
  6. stlcatman

    stlcatman New Member

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    Well you learn something new every day. I thought it was kept up by the conservation dept. Thanks for digging deeper Kutter. I believe there is egg on my face as well.
     
  7. Skunk Master

    Skunk Master New Member

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    Damn Tom I bet it took at least 2 big shots of Tennessee's finest before you typed that huh..
     
  8. stump jumper

    stump jumper New Member

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    il buy a round as long as its the finest ,make them doubles , thanks tom:smile2:
     
  9. Skunk Master

    Skunk Master New Member

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    Thats all Tom drinks is the best.. Except for that homemade wine experiment..
     
  10. Dredge

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    If this rain keeps up,we might get lucky and raise the water to useable levels.At least for a few days.We can only hope.
     
  11. eflow

    eflow New Member

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    Bring on the rain except for Sat. around 3pm to 12am. PLEASE!
     
  12. Kutter

    Kutter New Member

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    My, My, I sure never knew you two were such big fans. By the way, minor detail, but Old Crow is not born in TN, it's conjured up in KY.:wink:
     
  13. Skunk Master

    Skunk Master New Member

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    I figured you as the Tennessee sippin whiskey type.. Did Old Crow get better.. It was a little rough around the edges back in my younger days..
     
  14. olejer

    olejer New Member

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    Wow they made Whiskey way back when there were dinosaures
     
  15. Malichi1970

    Malichi1970 New Member

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    When I drank Whiskey I used to take a liken to the Yukon Jack...but then I like to taste my alcohol. :smile2:
     
  16. Kutter

    Kutter New Member

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    I thought you knew this story. Ok, I'll retell it.
    Many years ago, on a whim, I decided to find out which whiskey I would like best. (apparently, I had little brains and too much money at the time) I purchased several dozen different fifths, one of about every brand I could find. Then, over a period of about 6 months, I "blind test" compared them, till I came out with a winner. It, as you can guess, turned out to be Old Crow.
     
  17. Malichi1970

    Malichi1970 New Member

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    Old Crow? I have to ask Tom how drunk were you when you came up with that conclusion?
     
  18. Kutter

    Kutter New Member

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    If you look real close, Mike, I made sure to not say Old Crow was the best, only that I found it to be the one I like best. Up until my testing, I would never have dreamed it myself. I just assumed Jack or something would have made it. One would have thought that price or big name would have accounted for at least something. Alas, my taste buds saw it differently. I shouldn't complain, Old Crow aint the cheapest, but it aint far from it.:wink:
     
  19. Skunk Master

    Skunk Master New Member

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    It's amazing what things you pick when you can't see a name on it isn't it.. Probably be able to live alot cheaper if we tried that on other things..
     
  20. Kutter

    Kutter New Member

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    I tried that once, Harold, but my wife caught me.:wink: