Recently, a member mentioned that he was basically run out of the Flam City River Access. Having spoken to both the Water Patrol and a Conservation Agent about this before, I mentioned to the member that the MDC owns the land, City of Arnold manages it & use of the ramp and fishing in the access area was a lawful endeavor which one could not be run out of the park for. Even the MO Conservationist Magazine mentioned that as long as you were using the area for fishing or boat access, you would not have to vacate the area after dark. My head swelled showing off my knowledge of such things! Time to hang my head and backpedal. First, I spoke with individual Police Officers who work this area. Then I contacted the MDC in Jefferson City. Then I contacted the Arnold City Administrator. In all this talking, it became readily apparent that times have changed since I originally got my info. MDC now allows the City of Arnold to make whatever rules they desire in regards to Flamm City Access. As of this moment, Flamm City Access ramp is closed one half hour after sunset. If you come back to the ramp later than that to get off the river, you can be ticketed. (Not likely though). I say as of now, because the City Administrator agrees that current regulation is putting an undue hardship on catfishermen who regularly fish late into the night. He is in the process of working with both the Parks Department & with the Police Department to tweek the rules to allow us to use the ramp. I'll let you all know when this has been completed. Sorry for the mix up. I was unaware that MDC had turned over the regulation of the area to Arnold.