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I have to say that i never really understood this rule of not being able to use more than two rods at a time. I myself can handle three just fine, and never saw the logic in the limit of just two? As a dedicated cat fisher, i just cannot see the reason for this. I am looking for some reasoning behind this law and your take on this....Rich..........THERE IS BAIT AND THEN THERE IS CATTIN!
 

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i find two rods to be more than enough, if you could use more there is people who are going to use more than they could manage, i get alot of doubles on two rods, i cant imagine using more. it just seems unnesasary to me, i like the rule..
 

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well two may be fine for you larry, but its not for me. If they would change there other laws pertaining to jugging and trotlining I would probably agree. I understand by law I can do the same, but... I don't understand how they can run theirs and not have to tend them like a rod and reel guy obviously has to. And in the last 17 or 18 years I have seen the effects of the liners! alot more than what the rod and reel guy has caused. I guess as long as you are getting doubles every night out, you probably are busy enough not to worry about using more poles.:wink: rollo
 

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It is no the fish that cause the DNR to do this, it is the lack of public access. So you have a sand bar along ariver or a nice point on the lake and some yahoo strings up a dozen rods aalong 200 yards of the only access around so no one else can fish there, get the idea?? I have been in many meetings with DNR officials where there was some talk about offering more to boat anglers ( think Erie) where the sportfishing /charter captains were pushing for this so there folks could limit earlier and they ( captains) could get out for a 2nd trip in one day to make more money.

As far as folks saying, why doesnt Ohio put/offer a 3rd rod stamp to increase revenue? Apparently the state does not think it would make enough money to cover printing and setting up the system to accomodate that as well as how negative folks get when it comes to paying more to fish, its like adding a fishing tax really and stuff like that never happens on election years within the states infrastructure.

I hope this helps...
BTW, Im all for it since I do a lot of boat fishing

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I can put out fifty bank lines and take up more room than a guy with a dozen poles! lol I think I will utilize the bank line more this year, for bait that is. That is what I want a third pole for any way. I can hear the Game warden now " Hey you say's he; I'm going to write you up for using two poles and a hand line! " Oh no your not! say's I. That line is attach to a stake in the bank with my name and address on it! say's I. Arr I can have fifty of em. lol :crazy::smile2::smile2::smile2:
 

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well two may be fine for you larry, but its not for me. If they would change there other laws pertaining to jugging and trotlining I would probably agree. I understand by law I can do the same, but... I don't understand how they can run theirs and not have to tend them like a rod and reel guy obviously has to. And in the last 17 or 18 years I have seen the effects of the liners! alot more than what the rod and reel guy has caused. I guess as long as you are getting doubles every night out, you probably are busy enough not to worry about using more poles.:wink: rollo
i could go for a third.:wink: its just the people who get way out of hand, you cant mange 5 rods in the dark fishing for big cats, maybe from a boat but not from shore, just my opinion:roll_eyes:
 

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This is a correspondence that I have had recently with the Ohio DNR. I would love for someone to pick up and carry the ball for me and ask them how many signatures it would take for the Great State of Ohio to consider the wishes of it's constituents. I would be happy to help word a petition to circulate around the state.

catfish fishing gear restrictions‏
From: Hale, Scott ([email protected])
Sent: Mon 2/25/08 1:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Latham, Angela ([email protected])

Hello Shawn,



Thank you for your interest in catfish fishing in Ohio. Catfish fishing in Ohio is clearly growing in popularity and the number of large fish that our anglers are catching is remarkable. We take our responsibility to manage these fisheries seriously and have responded with regulations to help keep our catfish fisheries strong.



Trotlines, banklines, and setlines are allowed for limited use in restricted areas and in a limited way. Trotlines are limited to very few areas. Setlines and banklines are limited to six lines in public waters less than 700 acres, checked every 24 hours, and removed when not in use. You will notice that the limit to the number of setlines and banklines in waters less than 700 acres is the same as the daily limit for channel catfish, that is, six fish per day. In this way, our regulation on these smaller, stocked waters is consistent with your idea of allowing enough tackle to catch up to the legal limit.



We agree that it is better to limit the numbers of fish anglers are permitted to keep per day and the lengths of those fish rather than the gear they use. However, most anglers seem to be satisfied with a two-rod limit and consider this to be very fair. At this time, more catfish anglers contact us with concerns about the increasing number of catfish caught and the limited restrictions on catching them, rather than expressing an interest in relaxing regulations or increasing the amount of tackle that is legal to use. In response increased catches of large catfish and the concerns we share regarding their overharvest, we have added trophy catfish regulations to protect larger fish and these regulations have been very well received.



Regarding the allowance of extra rods, we have never heard from anyone in the tackle industry indicating that our current catfish regulations have limited their revenue.

Your suggestion to sell special “stamps” to allow extra rods is unlikely to be well received by the public in general, and is equally unlikely to generate a significant amount of revenue. The current “anti-tax” sentiment of the public would make it nearly impossible to develop a “rod stamp” and in fact, we would not favor such a proposal.



Please feel free to contact me directly if you have further questions. I am sorry that you did not get a response to your previous e-mail.



Scott Hale



Scott Hale

Inland Fisheries Program Administrator

ODNR, Division of Wildlife

2045 Morse Road, Building G-3

Columbus, OH 43229-6693



Phone: 614.265.6554

Fax: 614.262.1143

e-mail: [email protected]



You Wrote:



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:01 PM

To: Wildinfo

Subject: Comments from users



Shawn Dostie at [email protected]



I have emailed before with no answer, hopefully one of these days someone will grace me with a reply. I would like to know why anglers in Ohio are limited to two lines (two rods) when trotlines, banklines, limblines and the like are allowed up to 50 hooks at a time? It seems redundant to have rod limits AND creel limits. If there are creel limits, who cares how long it takes to get them or how many lines are used? I am a catfish fisherman who likes to fish for trophy flathead catfish. These are wiley creatures and it is a burgeoning sport. This regulation costs sporting goods retailers a fortune which in turn means less revenue in sales and corporate taxes to the State of Ohio. Additionally, if properly marketed it could mean extra revenue to the DNR, if in fact a 3rd and 4th rod "stamp" could be purchased with fishing licenses. I would be pleased with a response, astounded but pleased. Is there any way a citizen can take steps to get legislation introduced to change this unfair law?



Thanks,

Shawn J. Dostie
 

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i could go for a third.:wink: its just the people who get way out of hand, you cant mange 5 rods in the dark fishing for big cats, maybe from a boat but not from shore, just my opinion:roll_eyes:
Larry, I am a very coordinated person and believe I could handle 5 or even more rods from a boat or on shore.
If you are getting multiple runs for fish over 30 lbs, I want to know your spots! As a matter of fact, what is your license plate number, and I'll send out the super sleuth s-man to search you out. If you see him, you'll know why he is there.... but for goodness sake man, be careful, he's been known to go Postal!
 

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Shawn, I tried to help. LOL Here is the e-mail..

Scott, I read your response to Shawn Dotsie's email about the possibility or raising the rod limit in Ohio above two rods.

I am a resident of Oklahoma, and possibly should keep my nose out of Ohio's business. However, I felt it appropriate to mention a fact about our states regulagions in this area. In Oklahoma, each legal angler is allowed seven (7) rods and reels, and 100 hooks on a trotline, and 100 hooks on juglines, and 50 hooks on limb lines. Very, very few fishermen in Oklahoma use 7 poles, probably the majority use three rods nd reels and a combination of jug lines and trotlines. It's not because we have a greater catfish population than Ohio, but because our state leadership feels the fishery in Oklahoma can support this limit. My personal thought is your state should investigate the limits on tackle within other states and strive for a happy medium. That's my two cents worth, and thanks for reading it.

Guess I should have really torqued him off and told him about the noodling. LOL
 

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i would really like one more rod added, but if it further limits our bank space then i am fine with the 2 rule. i bank fish more than i boat fish but see no reason why boat fishermen cant use 3 rods.
 

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Here in Kansas you are allowed 2 rods unless you buy a 3 pole permit. I think that is fair. I have fished in Oklahoma for most of my life and have never used more than three and I cant recall seeing anyone using more than that. Can you imagine 50 people fishing below a dam with 7 rods apiece? I dont want to. In a boat I can see using more but I will stick with 2 or 3 so I can keep a real good eye on em.:0a14:
 

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Here in Kansas you are allowed 2 rods unless you buy a 3 pole permit. I think that is fair. I have fished in Oklahoma for most of my life and have never used more than three and I cant recall seeing anyone using more than that. Can you imagine 50 people fishing below a dam with 7 rods apiece? I dont want to. In a boat I can see using more but I will stick with 2 or 3 so I can keep a real good eye on em.:0a14:
An interesting point. I don't fish along dams and could not handle more than one or two in fast water. However in an empty area with a long run on a lake I could handle 10-20 with a clicker. That said it would take me 3 days to collect enough live bait for a night with 20 rods lol!
 
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