Of Mice or....baitfish?

Discussion in 'Flathead Catfish' started by stitch, Mar 9, 2007.

  1. stitch

    stitch New Member

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    Has anybody ever fished with live mice? I have a buddy who caught a cat years ago and when he cut open the belly he found a mouse. I have also known large bass to bite on "rat lures". Knowing how flathead are predators, I would think that mice would be prefered the same as, if not more than, live black perch. If they could find them on top of the water, that is. Any comments, suggestions, experiance? Thanks.:smile2:
     
  2. crazy

    crazy New Member

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    Have watched many of bass eat mice that I have thrown into a pond. Most the time they don't make it very far before they get taken down.
     

  3. stitch

    stitch New Member

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    lol :happy: thanks. I wonder how you could tie a hook onto one of those little suckers without being too cruel.... and I wonder if you could raise them for fishin....
     
  4. BIG GEORGE

    BIG GEORGE New Member

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    You're fixin to drown it or hope it gets eatin by a flathead and ya are worried about bein cruel? Give me a break. LOL!
     
  5. catfishcentral

    catfishcentral New Member

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    They work....wear leather gloves cause they will bite you. My buddy raised rats five years ago for limblining flatheads. You take the hook and run it through the back of the neck and only give them enough room to swim in a small circle with no weight. They will swim for a very long time until a flathead searching the banks for food find them. We caught quite a few but there too much trouble and I haven't done it since then.
     
  6. Blacky

    Blacky New Member

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    If you don't wanna injured or be cruel to the mice, I'm sure you could figure a way to tape, rubberband, or thread the hook to one of its legs.
     
  7. Pastor E

    Pastor E New Member

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    Whats the difference between a mouse or minnow or crawfish or frog
     
  8. stitch

    stitch New Member

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    i dunno i was just wondering...are all baits created equal? around here everybody fishes for flats w/ black perch. would it make any difference on catch number and size if you used something else....frog, minnow, mouse? Or is a hungry flat just simply a hungry flat?:confused2:
     
  9. F150Catfish

    F150Catfish New Member

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    my dad use mice lures for musky, caught tons of musky by the weedbed. but never use live mice for fishing..
     
  10. bootshowl

    bootshowl New Member

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    The topic bothers me, as it seems everytime a mouse dies somewhere, another product is born or taken away....another habit becomes unhealthy, etc.
    Long live the mice. Besides who don't love Micky.
    :crazy:
     
  11. RiverKing

    RiverKing Active Member

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    I dont think they would be any good fishing in the main river, you have to use weight in the river, it would only take 2 minutes for the mouse to drown, then there goes your live bait..Plus I am one who believes that the best bait for catfish is food that is natural in the river system they are in..I dont know of too many rivers where mice are a main food source for catfish.
     
  12. Scott Daw

    Scott Daw New Member

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    I caught a 17" brown trout with a field mouse in its stomach. If you want to use a mouse for catfish, you can get them or order them at a petshop prekilled & frozen or you can just wack it on something hard to dispatch them. thats what alot of pet shops do before feeding it to the snakes. I personally prefered live mice for the eastern kingsnake I kept.
     
  13. GMC FishHauler

    GMC FishHauler New Member

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    i've seen yella cats eat small ducklings. so i used some small birds for bait. they r much cuter than mice, and mice and other small animals fall into the water all the time. Just as natrual as a perch swimmin around
     
  14. Catmaster

    Catmaster New Member

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    I have seen a bass come up and hammer a live mouse but I have never herd of or seen a flathead gulp down a mouse. I am sure they probably would.
     
  15. Netmanjack

    Netmanjack New Member

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    If it is legal in your state then I see no reason not to use them, but I would draw the line at soaking them in WD40. lol :eek:oooh: :big_smile: :lol:
     
  16. Big Eli

    Big Eli New Member

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    Baby pinky's make great bait for channels.

    There are plenty of them to go around. I watched a show on animal planet a while back that said two breading mice producing health off spring and counting for preditors can in total make 5,000 new catfish baits a year!!!!!!!

    Dip in garlic and have at it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  17. beakus

    beakus New Member

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    man o man PETA's gonna be on you guys like stink on mouse poop!:lol: maybe you should lube him up with some sonny's or danny kings!
     
  18. catfish_clayton

    catfish_clayton New Member

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    I've never used live mice, but yesterday I cought a couple of young muskrats with my dog, he was digging around and found them I threw them into a bucket and I was going to cut them up and use them for fishing today but my dad said I would be hartless to kill a couple cute little muskrats so I let them loose. If my dad didnt have souch a soft spot in his heart for wildlife I could of told you guys how it worked.
     
  19. osageCo_flathead

    osageCo_flathead New Member

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    I have found mice and small squirrels in flatheads. It's not odd to find small turtle, water snakes, water fowell...you name it. The strangest thing I found in a fish was a beer bottle...why he ate I will never know.
     
  20. allworknofish

    allworknofish New Member

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    aint got a problem puttin a hook through a perch and throwin him back in his element........but the whole mouse treadin water kinda sounds cruel wheather your hooking, taping, or wiring the thing to a limb..just my opinion