Odd idea

Discussion in 'LOCAL ILLINOIS TALK' started by Bad_fisherman21, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. Bad_fisherman21

    Bad_fisherman21 New Member

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    Would strips or chuncks of crappie and bass work well for big catfish bait? Ive used cut gills and ive used cut shad but never tried cut bass or crappie. And besides that do frogs work at all?
     
  2. olddriller

    olddriller New Member

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    Ryan, It might be a good ideal to check the rules and laws in your state ,about using game fish for bait. It may be ok if the fish was cought in a legal method , and legal size. Big blues will eat small striped bass, I cought one with a bass in its tummy. Frogs will work , but doin't get cought with to many.
     

  3. bwhupp

    bwhupp New Member

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    Game fish buddy... best bet is to say no so you don't get in trouble. Better off using bluegill and shad for around here.
     
  4. Bad_fisherman21

    Bad_fisherman21 New Member

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    Yea i was pretty sure that bass wasnt a good idea but are crappie consitered game fish too? And also i know a buddy of mine has used striped bass cut it to filets and rolled up and caught a catfish within 10 mins of throwing it out. And the place that he fished he usually has to wait a good 25-30 mins to even get a bite
     
  5. eflow

    eflow New Member

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    why would you want to use a prefectly good bass or crappie fillet for bait when you could throw it in the grease and eat it? But I do agree w/ the others I believe its not legal to use gamefish as bait in IL.
     
  6. Shawn

    Shawn New Member

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    If there are no site specific regs on crappie you may be ok there... I don't think there's a statewide limit on those. I actually like live crappies though.

    Shawn
     
  7. bwhupp

    bwhupp New Member

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    IDNR Regulations:

    Crappie (White, Black or Hybrid Crappie)
    There are no creel or length limits except
    in those waters listed under Site Specific
    Regulations.


    BAIT FISHING
    A sport fishing license permits the use of legalsized
    cast nets, shad scoops, minnow traps
    and minnow seines to obtain shad, alewife,
    minnows and crayfish to use as bait, provided
    they are not sold or are not identified as threatened
    or endangered aquatic life. All cast nets
    shall be not larger than 8 feet in diameter or of
    a mesh size not larger than 3/8 inch bar measurement.
    All shad scoops shall be not larger
    than 30 inches in diameter or of a mesh size
    not larger than 1/2 inch bar measurement or
    longer than 4 feet in length. Minnow seines
    shall not be longer than 20 feet, deeper than 6
    feet or contain mesh size larger than 1/2 inch
    bar measurement. Minnow traps shall not be
    longer than 36 inches, nor wider than 24 inches,
    nor use mesh larger than 1/2 inch bar measurement.
    Minnows and crayfish may be collected with
    traps of metal screen or hardware cloth, plastic,
    or nylon mesh or netting. Such traps may not
    be more than 24 inches in width or diameter or
    more than 36 inches in length nor use a mesh
    of more than 1/2 inch bar measurement. Each
    entrance aperture may not exceed 1.5 inches in
    diameter. If unattended, such devices must be
    tagged with the name and mailing address of
    the person operating the device. Minnows and
    crayfish collected in such devices may only be
    taken for personal use and may not be sold or
    bartered.
    BLUEGILL AS BAIT
    There is nothing in the Illinois Fish Code which
    prohibits the use of legally taken bluegill or sunfish
    as bait for another species of fish. The
    bluegill/sunfish must have been taken by a
    properly licensed sport fisherman using legal
    sportfishing devices. You must also observe all
    size and creel limits both where the
    bluegill/sunfish were taken and where they are
    being used as bait. Also, it is illegal to cut up
    or dress or be in possession of cut up or
    dressed fish on any body of water where there
    is a size limit for that particular species of fish.





    Crappie is okay as long as the body of water permits and no size or length limit. I haven't fished with them personally.
     
  8. bwhupp

    bwhupp New Member

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    FROGS
    A sport fishing license is required to take bullfrogs.
    Bullfrogs may be taken by hand, pole
    and line fishing methods, pitchfork, landing
    net, bow and arrow or bow and arrow device,
    spear or gig. Firearms, air guns, gas guns or
    commercial fishing devices such as dip nets,
    hoop nets, traps or seines are not allowed in
    the taking of bullfrogs. Bullfrogs may be
    taken from June 15 to August 31 (both days
    inclusive). The daily limit is 8 bullfrogs with
    16 bullfrogs being the possession limit.

    8 turtles or frogs of each species daily catch limit; 16 turtles or frogs of each
    species possession limit (excludes reptiles or amphibians protected by the
    Endangered Species Act.)




    That's all I could find in regards of frogs... guess as long as they are not bullfrogs, are protected by Endangered Species Act, and within daily creel limit, it is okay. Never used them personally.
     
  9. SubnetZero

    SubnetZero New Member

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    Not sure about that.. I know there is something in there about "cleaning" a fish on the water that they may get you on.. And most lakes around here that have crappie in it have a creel and length limit on em, which would make illegal for bait.