Newbie Taking son to Parker Dam This weekend

Discussion in 'CALIFORNIA RIVERS TALK' started by DDZnCREW, Jun 15, 2009.

  1. DDZnCREW

    DDZnCREW New Member

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    Hi there, Name is Davren and I am a fishing guide for bass and trout. Son wants to catch monster flatheads, so I figured havasu and below parker damn with live goldfish would be a good idea.

    Any special spots ? Would the other side of Havasu across from Parker Dam or BELOW parker damn on the strip be a better choice? I sunk my boat on Isabella so I have nothing but shore right now LOL:embarassed:
     
  2. rrssmith

    rrssmith New Member

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    welcome to the BOC...you sunk your boat at Lake isabella?
     

  3. jagdoctor1

    jagdoctor1 New Member

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    I don't know that area... the Blythe are is good though.:roll_eyes:
     
  4. bluehunter

    bluehunter New Member

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    I have not fished that area but the parker strip and also below the dam has been good for flats. There is a website that concentrates strickly on the parker area called fish parker or you can goggle it. They talk about the bite in that area and flatheads and big ones too are common and abundant there just like anywhere else on the river down to Yuma. Not many has ventured there or posted reports. I am looking to change that just like not many reports came from the IV area until recently. It is a flathead jewel down in that area and the parker area is a jewel as well, we just need some people to fish it and post some reports.
     
  5. desertcatrat

    desertcatrat New Member

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    thanx blue
    dont make me go on a mission
    also welcome to boc, there are flatsup there
     
  6. Snagged2

    Snagged2 New Member

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    Welcome in to the BOC

    Sounds like,, a mission to me!! That's a real pretty stretch of the river,, but, I've never fished it..
     
  7. daystarchis

    daystarchis New Member

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    Welcome to the BOC. Wish I could be some help to ya. I am up here in Fresno (Central Valley).
     
  8. CatMan(Cali)

    CatMan(Cali) Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the BOC. There is flatheads there, but I have never fished there before. If you can catch some gills would make good bait.:wink: Goldfish will work though. Good luck and don't forget to post your catch.
     
  9. plumbertom1

    plumbertom1 Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the BOC, Davren.
    I have been giving some thought to fishing the river above the Palo Verde Diversion Dam.
    It seem to me that with all the flat head that are caught in the Blythe canals, there must be good numbers above that dam, after all that's where the water comes from for those canals.
    So any place along that stretch of river from Parker to Palo Verde should give you good opportunity.
    Just set up a Carolina rig with a weight slider instead of a egg sinker and use no roll weights (3-5 oz.depending on current) with the goldfish.
    If I remember the Ca. fishing regs correctly sunfish are only allowed below the diversion dam.
     
  10. CatMan(Cali)

    CatMan(Cali) Well-Known Member

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    Are sunfish bluegills?
     
  11. DDZnCREW

    DDZnCREW New Member

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    A good way to identify a bluegill from other sunfish is to look for a prominent black spot on the rear edge of the gill-cover and a black spot at the base of the posterior portion of the dorsal fin. Body coloration is highly variable with size, sex, spawning, water color, bottom type, and amount of cover.
    Darker water tends to yield darker bluegills with olive to black backs that get lighter toward a yellowish belly. Clearer water will produce bluegills with blue-green backs with white bellies. Males typically have brighter colors than females, especially during breeding, when they may have orange to rusty-red breasts. Bluegills have five to nine dark, vertical bands running down their sides. The bands get lighter as they go down the side, disappearing near the belly.
    Bluegills prefer quiet, warm waters with abundant vegetation, where they can hide and feed. They inhabit lakes and ponds, slow-flowing rivers and streams with sand, mud, or gravel bottoms. Young bluegill will frequent areas that are shallow and weedy near the shore; while adults prefer deeper water during the day and shallower waters during the night. Bluegill will avoid direct sun, instead choosing the cover of aquatic vegetation and submerged brush.
     
  12. plumbertom1

    plumbertom1 Well-Known Member

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    My mistake, it's talapia that can't be used for bait above Palo Verde Diversion dam. I just looked it up and sunfish (bluegill are sunfish) are legal in all of the Colorado River District.
     
  13. DDZnCREW

    DDZnCREW New Member

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    So I took Jake and what an experience it was! I have fished for cats all of my life, and what I experienced here was insane to say the least. Please correct anything I did wrong so that I may have a better trip later.

    My main target was flatheads, I know they eat live bait so we caught bluegills ahead of time and put them in a minnow bucket. I used a one ounce sinker ABOVE the bait and casted from the fishing docks at Havasu Springs resort. Within five minutes the bell went nuts and I had Jake set the hook ( owner whisker catchers ) The Ugly stick Catfish pole bent at the base and five minutes later the fish was nowhere near in. Anyone who has not been there please be advised that unless your fishing a boat launch the whole lake is a cliff after about 50 ft. needless to say the fish dove down deep and cut the line on the rocks. SO I Stripped off the line and put 100 lb Big Game Line on. THen used steel split leaders followed by Flourocarbon Leaders and Owner hooks. We Used two bigger bluegill ( after all the smaller ones were easy, why not go bigger? ) BAM ten minutes later we fought again this time the fish stripped out 100 yards of line and wrapped around a NO WAKE BOUY once again leaving us empty handed. THis happened three more times even after I put the weight ABOVE and BELOW the Bait, I tried everything I knew and finally Jake reeled in this catfish ALL BY HIMSELF. Anyone know anything about the Quail lake spot at the aquaduct or Littlerock Dam?
     

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  14. bluehunter

    bluehunter New Member

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    That is a nice catfish. If those boys are swinging like that there I need to make a trip.

    If there is a lot of structure down at your spot best thing to do is use that heavy gear like you had in just bottom out on that cat giving him no mercy. That big mono and leader you had I would tightn up that drag and ripp him up to get away from all of the rocks. With the right stuff you can accomplish that with ease. One thing about big cats they know how to find obstruction so help them out. No give can help stop that.
     
  15. tofish

    tofish New Member

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    oh yes, i know that fishing dock pretty well. there is some rocks there. that is a favorite catfish spot, and striper spot. i usually fish out from it in boat, but can relate to the runs you had. i'm not from there, but my son lived there for yrs, and have several friends there. not many (if any) flatheads right in that spot. bill williams arm or the place where they take the water out of lake for canal going to ca 1/3 up lake is places for them.
    good to see the smile on your son's face. that is priceless.
    gary
     
  16. gilmafam

    gilmafam Well-Known Member

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    Davern.... good to see that you had a good time on Havasu... been there a time or two myself... I have been staying at "BlackMeadows" in the recent years, but "way back when".... I launched out of Havasu Springs and spent the night on the water many times.... been all over the lake... mostly the south end... but have come down from the Topock area to check out the Gorge area... All of this was done without "live" bait...I have used water dogs and cdads... but mostly used my mackerel

    As far as Quail lake... I have stopped there on my way out of town many times as it is a place to "hold over" getting out of LA... camping is free, and I can depart LA after the traffic, and get to quail lake later in the evening and fish right near the car.... got a rocky shore, which was awkward for me after some surgeries limiting my mobility...

    If you go west of the parking area to the aquaduct, you can take the access road to the "inlet" area.... about 1.4 miles... I have never been to the east end of the lake... but it sure looks closer to that end....

    Again... I've only been there several times to do stop while getting out of town... (good "shooting star" watch place there at times of the year..)...

    they have a "plastic out house" there as it is kind of a "rest stop".... have seen "prisoners" stop there while being escorted out out of town, as the guards watched the boys and girls in the outhouse...LOL

    As far as Little Rock.... been there 25 years back as we would go from Wrightwood and fish for the stocked trout that is there.... wasn't into the cat thing back then.. but the dam area is deep and should have some cats in it as well..... Water is the main thing there... "it is there or it is not.".... but I believe it is spring feed as well.....

    Good luck with the fishing... and "catching"

    "From the beach at LA...".....Bayrunner Ray