Neosho River

Discussion in 'OKLAHOMA RIVERS TALK' started by jbarnes17, Jul 14, 2007.

  1. jbarnes17

    jbarnes17 New Member

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    Commerce, Oklahoma
    Haven't been able to fish in two weeks because of the the flood. Riverview Park in Miami is still roped off and even if you could put a boat in they say the water isn't safe and if you come in contact with it you need to get a tetanus shot. I work at the casino in Miami and it sets right in the middle of the disaster area. Water didn't get in the casino because it is built up high, but it was surrounded by water last week. The whole south end of Miami smells something awful and lots of people are probably going to have to tear down their houses. I hope everybody else is getting some fishing in, I guess me and my boys are going to have to fish over on Spring River for a while because another week of no fishing and spending "Quality" time with the wife is going to drive me crazy.:wink:
     
  2. tkishkape

    tkishkape New Member

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    State:
    Gore, Okla
    If the water isn't safe, and all of Miami has been innundated by water that obviously has been tainted by sewage, when can we expect this wastewater to get downstream into Grand Lake, then Hudson Lake, then Ft Gibson Lake, then Webbers Falls Lake, then Kerr Lake and on into Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi, finally to the Gulf?

    Can this bacterial infestation be removed from the flood water, or is the State just hoping that eventually it will be diluted to the point where it is safe to drink?

    What is this pollution going to do to our fish? Will they die from infections? Will their meat be tainted? Who will be held responsible?
     

  3. jbarnes17

    jbarnes17 New Member

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    State:
    Commerce, Oklahoma

    I guess they assume that will dilute itself down before it reachs that far. When the water receded there was all kinds of fish laying everywhere, some dead some still alive. Our parking lot at work was completely covered by water and after the water receded there were holes ate out in the parking lot from the chemicals in the water. When the water was up high they said that it tested positive for E-coli, all three hepatitus, and had meth lab residue. Alot of these houses and businesses should have never been built where they are located in the first place. Hopefully FEMA will have some of these homes and business's move. As for the fish, their meat probably will be tainted for a while. Thats why we are going to fish spring river for a while. There is still residue an filth all over the ground where the water once stood. It will take several good rains to wash it all out. The bad thing is that it will all wash into the river and downstream. I hope it doesn't affect the fishing down your way because the smell of this crap is down right nasty.
     
  4. catman george

    catman george New Member

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    State:
    Oklahoma
    Joel and Albert- The sewage that you are concerned about has been diluted by millions and millions of gallons of water. The fish will not die because of it nor will the meat be tainted by sewage. There is other compounds in the water too, such as animal waste. This also was diluted. The downstream lakes are safe as well from sewage pollution. The oil spill will be digested by bacteria that naturally occur in the environment. E-coli bacteria is found in waste. The only time it is of concern is when it is found in water wells that are used for human consumption. The solution for that is to apply chlorox bleach to the well, allow it to remain in the well for an hour or two, then flush it out. Normally it is safe to drink after that. It is a good idea to have a lab run a bacteria culture test on the well water to be absolutely sure that it is safe. Regarding your yards and parking lots smelling in time they will dry out and the ultra violet light from the sun will kill alot of the bacteria. UV is commonly used for disinfection of wastewater as it leaves the sewer plant. People do not realize that most towns discharge their treated wastewater into a creek or river in Okla. The towns or cities that draw their drinking water from a river or lake in Okla will treat the water, chlorinate it, add fluoride and then send it out into the distribution system to their customers. Rest at ease, your water and wastewater operators are working at their respective towns to clean up their plants to keep the environment safe and you the customer healthy. For this they get little praise. I am in the water and wastewater consulting business and work every day trying to ensure towns stay in compliance with EPA and ODEQ regs.
    I hope this helps you better understand what is going on with the sewage and your good health is always a concern.

    catman george
     
  5. fishnfool68

    fishnfool68 New Member

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    State:
    Near Tulsa Oklahoma
    I think the flooding overall will have a positive effect on the hunting and fishing for years to come.I pray for all the folks who have been hurt by the floods.I think floods like fires ,are nature's way of cleaning house.