well i went and done it today. cut a few tall, bushy trees down, strapped em together, found a couple of big rocks, and sunk em NEXT to my favorite spot. i dont think anybody saw me do it so theyll be wonderin, how in the heck is he catchin em. hehe. i got a spot thats moderately productive and i put mine out about 15 ft farther out, and 5ft over from it. i dont have a depth finder, but i know where it is. it seems to be on a good drop from the shallows to the deeper water so well see in a couple of days how my super secret handy work has done.