within the last couple of months i have met a member CAG (CARP ANGLERS GROUP) and a member of midwestanglers, there based in chicago,il. they specialize in european and american techniques for carp. they introduced the hair rig to me and certain techniques that have greatly increased my catch and weight of fish. because of them i have caught three 20lb + carp. if different fishing organizations and clubs took time to show techniques we could all be great carp and catfish fisherman, even though its good to be competitive and pull tricks out of you sleeve for that monster fish.