You may remember me asking if anyone had ever used one of those cheap 150 lb crossbows you find on ebay a couple of months ago. Well I got one for my daughter and we practiced until she was on good at 20 yds. Our first four trips we didn't get a shot. But last sunday evening we went to a guys land to see if we could get a hog, but a little buck showed up instead and gave her a perfect quartering away shot, and she smoked him at 20 yards. She was pumped. She made a perfect shot right behind the shoulder and it didnt run 30 yards. Quite an accomplishment for a little girl in a wheel chair.