Mississippi Trotline Tournament

Discussion in 'TOURNAMENT TALK' started by trotline mississippi, Oct 23, 2008.

  1. trotline mississippi

    trotline mississippi New Member

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    Myself and a few fellow fisherman are starting to get things together for a trotline tournament for the spring of 2010. It will be held on the Mississippi River in Mississippi. We haven't decided exactly which port we will fish out of yet, we are trying to get some input on this and see how many people might be interested. Some of the prelimenary stats on the tourney are as follows:
    100 Boats(hopefully)
    $100.00 per boat and the boat can have as many in it as the certification will allow.
    200 hooks per boat- this is state law
    start on a friday at noon and finish on a sunday at noon
    hooks will be counted upon launching on friday all extras will be surrendered to judges till sunday.
    weigh in friday night , sat morning and night, and sunday morning
    cookout friday night and fish fry on sat ( fish will come from donations from tournament fishers )

    based on 100 boats prizes as follows
    1st-3000.00
    2nd-2000.00
    3rd-1000.00
    Lunker-750.00

    we hope to have plenty of sponsors and plenty of other prizes and trophies to give away. all extra enry money after the expenses are paid will be split and given as prize money.

    in the past we have had other catagories like a biggest trash fish, biggest on one run prize and so on. lots of fun and endless prizes.

    We will have a 2 ton fish truck on site loaded with gold fish for sale for bait. and it will also be available to put the caught fish in to kep them alive. This tourney is a "its your fish, so its your choice" we will not specify either way on the keeping or releasing of catfish.

    We are looking for suggestions, help, date prefrences, location ???

    The only location choices we really have are the following starting with north and moving south.

    Tunica-mhoon landing and the new one at the river museum. plenty of hotels at the casinos and around them. Plenty of rv camping around the area. possibly some good sponsorship there too??

    Greenville- river port should be enough hotels around. not sure about rv camping in greenville but i know there is in lake village Arkansas just across the river. not sure on sponsorship in the area.

    Vicksburg-Canal port landing-Also alot of casinos and rv camping. will ave to check on availability of boat parking. Sponsoship is good in this area also.

    Natchez Ms/Vidaila La- Miss ramp is good but not much room to park. Vidalia has a good ramp and a nice large campground right on th river. Plenty of parking and hotels on both sides of the river. Not sure on sponsorship here but there is casinos and it shouldnt be a problem.

    All i am asking for on this site is maybe some input and suggestions.

    Thank you for your time.

    Jeremy Mitchell
     
  2. misterwhisker

    misterwhisker New Member

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    i think lowering the entry fee would get more people interested....i would like to see the weigh in on that one.
     

  3. spoonfish

    spoonfish New Member

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    I dont run trout lines but have in years past so not down grading them but why so many hooks? With 100 boats that would be 20,000 hooks out.
    Thats going to be a lot of fish taken out of your fishery over a 48 hour period if it's not catch and release.
     
  4. trotline mississippi

    trotline mississippi New Member

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    Glad to get some input on this. The entry fee can be adjusted but with that the prize money will go down also. I am not saying that it wont happen but i would like to see it stay at 100 , thats only 50 per man if just 2 in the boat. Not much entry fee for a tournament in my opinion. As far as the hooks each boat can fish up to 200, it will be there choice. The catch and release issue will be left up to the individual fishermen. Way to sticky of a subject to try and please everyone.

    Thanks for the input keep it comming
     
  5. cocatfish

    cocatfish New Member

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    Hi Jeremy,
    I know you like 200 hooks and yes the fisherman can handle it with no problem, its the fisherie that will suffer. Drop it to 66 hooks. More of a challenge. $100 entry fee is fine. Or limit it to 2 cat per boat.
     
  6. Mr.T

    Mr.T Active Member

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    Most tournaments - catfish or otherwise - have been leaders in fish conservation efforts; the success and longevity of a tournament depends on having quality fish available for the anglers in the tournament.

    I don't get the impression that this trotline "tournament" is going to do anything to help improve the catfishing in Mississippi.
     
  7. Steve Douglas

    Steve Douglas Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    i dont even know what to say to this one!

    wheres the sport in trotlining, thats a meat catchin activity! 200 hooks and no limit, plus its up to the fisherman to decide what he does with the fish he catches! whats up with that!

    now i aint tryin to down nobodies past times or hobbies i do understand trotlining has been around for years, probably past down from father to son! and i have done my share of it in the past but if your gonna have a tourny put some limits on it! make it more interesting ! only allow 50 hooks per team and a 10 fish limit! if the guys want to keep there ten fish , thats cool! its alot better that 100 fish per team, make it tougher on the fisherman to see who is truly the best at settin lines! wheres the challenge!

    if you guys went at this trotline tourny. thing with conservation in mind! #1. you wont be getting crap from guys like me and the guy above me, that is working hard on conservation and # 2. you guys would be able to have one every week end , for many years to come! because you would be doin your part in conserving the catfish for all to enjoy!!
     
  8. cocatfish

    cocatfish New Member

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    Well said Steve. Conservation is the key.
     
  9. MRR

    MRR New Member

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    man thats crazy. No challange in that.In our state I believe were allowed 33 hooks .And that is more than enough.
    Make it a challange lower the hook limit. Entry fee is fine.50.00 buck a person isn't bad.
     
  10. rebelzgrl76

    rebelzgrl76 New Member

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    Lower the hook limit.

    Its been a long while but I am not even sure the gold fish bait ordeal is even legal. Is it?
     
  11. catcrazed

    catcrazed New Member

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    Ya know, I just watched a DVD I got for christmas on blue fishing on the mississippi and bill dance was one of the fellas fishing. They were just talking about how pretty much everything that swims in the mississippi is protected but not the poor ole catfish. The guide that bill was with was saying that all the commercial netting and trotlining has really taken its toll on the population in the past 15 years he has been a guide. THATS COMING FROM A PRO!!! This is a very touchy subject and I can see that not many people have replied to this thread and I know why. Thank god MOST of us are trying to help by being cpr fans. I know that the it states that they can do what they want with the fish, evan release them if they would like. My experience with the limb lining done in my area, there is hardly any fish put back. There should be a LOT strickter laws on this issue. I with a ohio fishing license am alowed 2 poles to fish with under ohio regulations. far as im concerned thats how many limblines you should get to use at a time. Sounds fair to me. Really its just a shame to see people would actually even participate in such a thing. This type of thing will be sure to dimenish the catfish population over time.
     
  12. jtrew

    jtrew New Member

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    I'll draw a lot of flak from this, but I don't think that catfish should have anything to do with how you can fish, or how many rods, hooks, lines, jugs, etc. you are allowed to fish with. There are places that tend to be crowded, and therefore a limit of one or two poles is reasonable for that reason. And too many jugs on the water can interfere with navigation (and I'm a jug fisherman). I feel that the answer is a proper limit on catfish, as determined by honest studies by fisheries biologists. Here in Arkansas, in most places, I'm allowed a limit of 10 catfish. Why should it matter if I use one hook to catch those 10, or 1000 hooks? Unless there's a lot of people who like to trotline/limbline, in which case, there might need to be a limit on the number of lines/hooks to give others a place to fish. If you plan to use the argument that people using lots of hooks are more likely to violate the stringer limits, that won't wash. I've seen too many rod & reel fishermen take 25-30 catfish apiece in a day. I've never seen a ticket given there for too many fish. But if you run your boat 10' too close to the dam, you'll be ticketed immediately. Why were these people taking home so many fish, day after day? To sell them of course! Even though they didn't have a commercial license, which would have cost them almost nothing. If we must have commercial fishing, the license fee should be high enough to keep out 'dabblers'. In the mid-70s, when I lived in California, a saltwater commercial license cost $500.
     
  13. catcrazed

    catcrazed New Member

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    Original Quote was: Why should it matter if I use one hook to catch those 10, or 1000 hooks? Unless there's a lot of people who like to trotline/limbline, in which case, there might need to be a limit on the number of lines/hooks to give others a place to fish. If you plan to use the argument that people using lots of hooks are more likely to violate the stringer limits, that won't wash.

    Im not here to argue, I have read a lot of your posts and have agreed and learned a thing or 2 from your posts and thank you for that but......... MOST, and I mean most people out taking fish on rod and reel arent able to catch huge numbers of fish in one day for the fact that they are limited to a certain number of lines and they can only be in one spot at a time. Now as for using multiple hooks "limblines" and such. Here in Ohio There is one thing on the minds of MOST of these folks. M O N E Y!! And that makes them greedy which makes them completely and totally not give a flying 2 squirts about conservation. That is why i have beef with that type of person doing that type of fishing. Also, lets just say that a person is allowed say 100 hooks out at a time. Most of these are gonna be in the creeks and they will be everywhere. Trust me I know this from experience and we pound the creeks for spring time cats, and yes I have not fished certain spost because there is a limb bouncing around with a fish on it. By the way MOST of these lines are not properly tagged. I completely and totally agree with you on one thing though. Make the commercial fishing licenses super high but you know what?? That isnt gonna stop these folks from doin it. There not payin for the licenses anyways. These dam paylakes around here in my neck of the woods are buyin fish from the deadbeat not buyin a license because they get fish off that particular type of person cheap. Its no different that anything. Get the best deal!! They don't care. Goes along the same lines as me gettin a commercial bait license. I thought about hookin up with a few local bait stores and being there supplier for skipps. Talked to them, told them what I would need per skipjack and they thought that i was out of my mind!! Thats because they are buyin them off of folks that don't have there commercial bait license and can sell them for little to nothing. Anyways, Im gettin way off course here but like I said. I am not trying to argue here. If the laws were RIGHT the hook limit would be a hell of a lot lower. Limblining has been done for years and was a way for folks to put food on the table when folks were hungry. The laws should be re-evaluated because that is no longer the situation. Folks arent starvin now. If folks have enough money to have a boat and money to put gas into a truck and a boat, they have enough to go to the store and buy reg. groceries.
     
  14. jtrew

    jtrew New Member

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    I understand what you're saying, but a law-abiding fisherman is only going to take home his limit (or less), regardless of how many hooks/poles he's using. Anybody who has so little regard for the game laws that he takes home more than his limit isn't going to pay any attention to how many hooks are allowed either. I mean, a crook is a crook, right? And let's face it, taking more than your limit is stealing...from the general public, but still stealing. Same as if he went into, say, the state vehicle licensing office and cleaned out the cash register.
     
  15. catcrazed

    catcrazed New Member

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    totally agree with ya there!!!
     
  16. BigCatter54

    BigCatter54 New Member

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    Good point Jerry, as a trotliner, I can personally say that me and my buddies trotline a lot during the spring and summer, and we only keep our limit and while we do keep large flatheads, we throw all blues over 30 back and throw all cats under 5 lbs back, just our rules, I know not everybody will agree but it is what it is, and we will throw any fish full of eggs back unless for some reason the fish has drowned on the line. In this tournament I agree for a tournament sake have a fish limit and possibly limit the number of hooks used, make it a little more sporty, that is the way we run our tournaments, and odds are at 200 hooks per boat, a lot of people will have a lot of empty hooks anyway, as there are only so many productive spots within a certain stretch of river if everone is lauching from the same boat ramp.
     
  17. jtrew

    jtrew New Member

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    I can see where having a limit on the number of trotlines and/or hooks would make sense in that situation. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most of the bass tournaments have a hefty penalty for dead fish? I've heard that many of these live fish die after being released, but I don't believe that's the case. Back when I bass fished a lot, several times I fished the area where the tournament fish were released, a day or two later; I never saw a dead bass floating in the water there. Maybe a similar rule for catfish tournaments would be a good thing. And all fish released, of course. After all, a person doesn't enter a tournament to get fish for the table.