Mississippi River Blue Catfish

Discussion in 'MISSOURI RIVERS TALK' started by Nessie, Aug 29, 2006.

  1. Nessie

    Nessie New Member

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    Hey all. I notice that most of you fish the Missouri for blues. Do any of you fish the Mississippi below Lock and Dam 26 near the confluence of the Missouri and Mississippi? If so, any advice on catching the blues? I am new to this and have had one outing with some success but have been skunked every other time with the exception of getting hit in the chest by a flying carp. To date, I have been fishing mostly gizzard shad and small asian carp on size 6/0 circle hooks using 4oz sinkers. Thanks for any help.
     
  2. blackhorse83

    blackhorse83 New Member

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    First of all WELCOME!! Try to find skip jack and using cut bait on the flats.
     

  3. RIVER-RAT

    RIVER-RAT New Member

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    Welcome to the BOC Nessie...

    I have been fishing the Mississippi the last two week-ends and have absolutely nailed them! :big_smile: :big_smile: I have been putting in at the dam there that you have mentioned and fishing right there at the big yellow cylinder on the IL side of the river...I have been catching all fish on cut asian carp and have been using 8/0 circle hooks with 4oz weights. I'm fishing in anywhere from 29-47 feet of water. As soon as darkness sets in, I head down river near the barge depots and fish near the main channel in approximately 10-14 ft of water...let me tell you, last sunday night I literally was catching fish after fish after fish for about 2 straight hours! :big_smile: Not one was under 13 pounds :lol: :lol: !! It was by far one of the greatest nights of fishing I have had to date since I took up this catfishing business about two years ago! In fact, I have had such great success fishing there on the Mississippi recently, I am going back there again this weekend! and it's a good 80 miles from my house 1 way!

    I have a 5 day weekend coming up starting tomorrow, Thursday, and wouldn't mind getting out there all five days! That's how great the fishing has been.

    It sounds to me that you are doing and using the exact same thing I am therefore if you just keep at it and try a few different locations, I garauntee (is that spelled right?) you'll be catching fish!

    Do you have a boat or are you fishing from the bank? If your fishing from the bank that still produces great results. I have seen several fish pulled to the bank that have been in the 30-40 lb range there at the dam. They use those great big 14ft surf rods and "drift" their bait, it's alot of casting and reeling put I have seen it work with good success on several occasions.

    Good luck and if you have any other questions, just ask, someone on this site will most likely have an answer. Welcome to the BEST catfishing site out there!
     
  4. RIVER-RAT

    RIVER-RAT New Member

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    Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I will definitly be there on Sunday during the day and am trying to arrange another trip(s) for Friday and Monday. I drive a pewter colored Yukon and have a 20ft SeaArk RiverCat named Death Barge II with Team Death Barge on the side. If you see me out there introduce yourself and maybe I can help in person and give you a couple spots!
     
  5. Nessie

    Nessie New Member

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    River-Rat. Glad to hear that you are catching your share of blue cats. I am fishing out of a boat and have fished the exact position you are referring to next to the "big yellow cylinder". I have not fished down the river at all by the "barge depots". How far down is that from the lock and dam? Also, what is your best method for catching the Asian Carp and how big are the pieces you are fishing with? Do you drift fish at all or do you anchor only? Any advice would be appreaciated as I am new to all this.

    By the way, I fish with a friend who has a grey flatbed truck and grey Lund boat. We have not caught enough big fish yet to give it a name like "Death Barge II", but we are working on it. I can't be there this weekend but maybe I will see you out there sometime.
     
  6. STC T&F

    STC T&F New Member

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    River rat...I fish the MO river between Washington and NH. i just got a teaching job at washington this year. Are you just fishing the Mississippi or do you wonder about the MO also? Ever set any trot lines near home? I started running lines last week and was looking for advise?

    Will probally see you out and about. Should be a big weekend on Dundee!! I am planning on setting lines and hanging out at the beach and checking every feew hours!!

    MJO
     
  7. bigcatJoe

    bigcatJoe New Member

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    Welcome to the boc.
     
  8. RIVER-RAT

    RIVER-RAT New Member

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    Nessie, I catch the asian carp the same way I catch the shad, with a throw net. They are usually anywhere from 6-8 inches in length. I then cut the tail off and toss it, I then proceed to cut the fish up into three sections, about 1-1.5 inch chunks and put the chunks on the hook. If I don't get a bite within 20-30 minutes I re-bait with a fresh fish. ALWAYS USE FRESH BAIT! That is one thing I have learned that is crucial to catching these bigguns. Anywhere you catch shad you can catch the carp as they feed on the same thing, plankton.

    The barge depot where I fish is down river approximately a mile or so, not to bad, there is a big paddle boat on the IL side, anywhere there in that area is good. Hope this helps.

    I anchor and fish.
     
  9. RIVER-RAT

    RIVER-RAT New Member

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    STC T&F, I fish there in Washington alot! I normally fish there near the bridge and down river between the Hwy 47 bridge and Labadie power plant. I've been going to the Mississippi here recently because of the success and fast action!

    I rarely put out trot lines cause I fish for the sport of it, I practice catch and release and trot lines are to hard on the fish, in my opinion, unless your going to keep and eat em. I also enjoy the fight of catching one these fish on rod and real, I haven't experienced anything quite like it. I grew up in Montana where the only fishing I did was fly fishing, catch and release is heavily practiced up there, I guess that's where I picked it up.

    Good luck and I'm sure I'll see you out there, I put in at Washington, if you see me, come on over and introduce yourself :lol:
     
  10. Nessie

    Nessie New Member

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    River-Rat,
    Did you make it to the Mississippi this weekend? If so, how was the fishing? I am going to try to make it out one night this week and was hoping the fishing was still good.
     
  11. Nessie

    Nessie New Member

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    Thanks for the welcome everyone. I made it out last Thursday and headed down toward the barge depot. I didn't have much luck down there but did catch one nice blue up toward the dam.

    River-Rat (or anyone else) I have a couple questions:

    1. Do you only fish the IL side of the river by the barges, or do you ever fish the dikes down by the barges? Any luck?

    2. When you cut the Asian Carp into 3 pieces, do you put all the chunks on one hook or just one piece per hook?

    3. There were a lot of barges on the IL side. What exactly is the depot and where is it? I found an old casino boat that has a red paddle on it. Is that the boat you were referring to?

    Hope you are still catching them on the Mississippi.

    Nessie
     
  12. RIVER-RAT

    RIVER-RAT New Member

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    Nessie...first of all by the looks of that HOG in your avatar photo, I should be asking you the questions:lol: :lol: How big was that guy and where did you catch him?! That's one awesome fish!!

    I cut the asian carp into three small sections, mind you these fish I cut up are 5-8 inches, then put one section on the hook. It turns out to be about a a one inch square of flesh on the hook.

    The barge depot is the repair stop where all the barges are out of the water and they dock to refuel. I have been fishing on the MO side directly across from there and been catching fish in the teens, nothing any bigger though. I want to get into some fish like you have in the avatar photo!

    This weekend I went down near the chain of rocks bridge and found an old sucken boat and anchored above it, tossed a line in and 2 minutes later pulled in a 17 pounder, rebaited and caught a 12 pounder about 3 minutes later. It was great!! Only stayed for a few minutes as we had a time restriction and needed to get home.

    I have never fished near the dykes yet but I see people fishing near them alot.

    Let me know the next time you head over there, maybe I'll be heading that way and we could hook up.
     
  13. steveg442

    steveg442 New Member

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    My brother-in law won a trip that he cashed in last Friday night. They put in at Kimmswick and came up river towards downtown. He said they caught bait for the first 2 hours(shad) and starting fishing near the JB Bridge. He said there were in a 50 ft hole and he caught a 51 pound blue. THe guide followed up with a 40 something pound flathead. He also had a few other at 30, 15 and 10..... Not a bad night !
     
  14. Cuz

    Cuz New Member

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    Who was the guide your brother in law went out with? I was unaware of any guides out on that section of river, and I fish it alot.Cuz
     
  15. steveg442

    steveg442 New Member

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    Not sure of the guys name. Not really sure that he is a professional guide. He won this trip earlier this year while he down down at Taneycomo. I'll try to find out his name.
     
  16. TN Greg

    TN Greg Member

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    Alirght, I am pretty new to all of this (blue cat fishing that is) and fish the area around St. Louis (I have to do something to get out of the urban jungle). Anyway, I have had minimal success -- a few fish here and there, but some fairly big which keeps me coming back. A couple of questions to the veteran BOCers. FYI-- I have a boat.

    Any information would be greatly appreciated.

    1: Can I expect to fish the same areas year round? Will things change considerably? Do you catch the blue cats year round or do they slow down with cold water?

    2: I've heard murmers about walleye in this area around the confluence, lock and dam 26, etc. Any truth? I have done a considerable amount of walleye fishing in TN and Canada, so am pretty adequate in the lake techniques -- unfortunately, I have no idea about this river stuff. Any help would be appreciated.

    3: I am catching plenty of asian carp in the cast net. As the season has progressed, I catch fewer and fewer gizzard shad. Should I stock up now for the fall and winter now?

    4: I concentrate my blue cattin' mainly in the Mississippi -- am I missing the boat by ignoring the Missouri? Those wing dikes are everywhere and I have no idea which to setup on.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  17. Kutter

    Kutter New Member

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    Hope at least to have helped a little bit.
     
  18. Nessie

    Nessie New Member

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    River-Rat,
    Thanks for the info. It is helpful. I will try to get out there again this week.
    I do not know how big the fish in my avatar was in lbs, but it was 42 inches long and 29 inches in girth if I remember right. We estimated it at 50-60 lbs but we could be wrong. We caught it up closer to the dam.
     
  19. TN Greg

    TN Greg Member

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    I went last night below the Melvin Price Lock and Dam. No problems catching bait, just had some troubles catching a fish. Not a bite. Is anyone catching them around here?
     
  20. Cuz

    Cuz New Member

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    Your welcome to go with me anytime. I have a boat as well. I can show you a few spots I know of. I like fishing with Kutter, but if the temp is below 102 degrees you will find him in bed under his covers shivering. :lol