any of you guys us these they are foam things that go around the rod above the reel and stay on with velcro. if not i recommend them i was with a buddy in his boat and i have them on 6 of my rods. gotta get more. but anyway went to cast out and hooked a rod behind me and it went over my head into the water bout 10 ft away from the boat and the life jacket really worked. i was able to hook the rod with another one and got it back. best 4 dollars i think i ever spent. but i think i will make the rest. the rod floated like it was laying on the water, not straight up and down like i figured it would have.