Legal or illegal?

Discussion in 'LOCAL KENTUCKY TALK' started by john catfish young, May 4, 2009.

  1. john catfish young

    john catfish young New Member

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    Ok .....Ive been under the impression that it is illegal to use "any" sport fish for bait. Including Redear sunfish (shell crackers) as we call them.
    But after reading the Kentucky fishing and boating guide last night.....On page 6, center column quote:...


    Regardless of size or how obtained, it is illegal to use any sport fish for bait(except redear sunfish).

    So tell me.....how would you interpret that?:confused2:
     
  2. katfish ken

    katfish ken New Member

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    I interpret it as legal to use redear sunfish as catfish bait. But I think there is a daily limit of 20 or possession limit of 40 on them. I plan on using them for bait till I find a warden that tells me I can't ,and then I'm going to pull the book out of my tackle bag and ask his interpretation of that section you just referred to.
    Do you think a hand sized one will pull a cat bobber under???:wink:
     

  3. jkm4874ford

    jkm4874ford New Member

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    Please post up an answer on this. I like many others need to know.
     
  4. stumpjumper

    stumpjumper New Member

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    In many states you can use bluegill, redears, etc. for bait as long as you do not exceed the legal limit (if there is one) and you have caught them on rod and reel (not casting net).
     
  5. catfishjohn

    catfishjohn New Member

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    Thats exactly what I've been told. Just don't go over the possession limit & catch them with r&r, not a net. I sent an e-mail to Frankfort a while ago and thats what they told me. I don't think I still have the e-mail but i'll look.
    Yep Ken, It'll pull a kat-bobber under, with a 40+lb flattie eating the 'ear...:roll_eyes::smile2:
     
  6. lance

    lance New Member

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    Don't know if it's illegal if caught in a cast net tho . Because of the word (EXCEPT) . That being said you guys catch plenty rod and reel . Now here is the kicker question what if the redear is LONGER than 6 in. ?
     
  7. lance

    lance New Member

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    Good luck getting a response via e-mail I sent a ? right after deeer season and they still haven't replied .
     
  8. catfishjohn

    catfishjohn New Member

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    Don't get caught if you get the 'ears in a cast net, under or over 6" you'll probably get a ticket. The way they explained it was they have to be caught on R&R to be used for bait. You can't keep any sport fish caught in a cast net. I can't find the e-mail they sent me but I'm pretty sure thats what they said.:confused2:
     
  9. katfish ken

    katfish ken New Member

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    There is nothing in the book about using fish longer than 6" for bait. Just that 6"and under is defined as minnows.
     
  10. mankind

    mankind New Member

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    your the man ken,set these fellows straight:wink:
     
  11. katfish ken

    katfish ken New Member

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    You are right about the cast net and all sport fish being released. If I could have kept them I'd had some nice crappie Sat. evening about 10 or 12 about 10 to 14"long while trying for shad.
     
  12. john catfish young

    john catfish young New Member

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    We have been under the impression that we couldn't use redears for bait because they are a sport fish in Kentucky. I like them because they are very lively and strong and I think a big flatty would really like to munch on one tomorrow night.....LOL:big_smile: Thanks for your responses guys!:cool2:
     
  13. Bomberman

    Bomberman New Member

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    Good luck! We use Bluegills all the time!
     
  14. catfishjohn

    catfishjohn New Member

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    Thats true, just can't use the redears whether over or under 6" for bait if caught in a cast net. If caught with hook it doesn't matter the size.:wink: You were the one that set me straight about catching gills in the cast net and using them for bait.:wink: Now If I can just get my back straightened up enough to throw my net.:roll_eyes:
     
  15. mankind

    mankind New Member

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    john you keep trying to throw that net and your going to end up falling out of boat:eek:oooh:
     
  16. catfishjohn

    catfishjohn New Member

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    :smile2: At least the water temp. is in the upper 60's...:crazy::eek:oooh::roll_eyes::smile2:
     
  17. mankind

    mankind New Member

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    is it thursday yet?:big_smile:
     
  18. katfish ken

    katfish ken New Member

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    I think that is something that has only changed in the last year or two. I don't remember the redear having a creel limit before the year to be honest with you.
     
  19. griz

    griz Well-Known Member

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    Redears were made a sport fish two or three years ago. The first year the regulations said - " Regardless of size or how obtained, it is illegal to use any sport fish for bait(except redear sunfish)." Last year the phrase "(except redear sunfish)." was taken out. Now this year it has been added back to the regulations. So I guess we can quit calling them "yellow belly bluegills" when we put them on a hook :smile2:
     
  20. katfish ken

    katfish ken New Member

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    I thought there had been some changes made on the redear status but was not sure when it took place.