I was out lastnight having no luck at all so I started looking for things that might be causing problems. I was looking at how I had my poles settup and noticed I had one of my leaders way to long. I use basically a carolina rig with a live gill. I run a 1.5 ounce egg sinker on the line, tie a hook on the end and then put a small splitshot about 24" above the hook so the egg sinker can't come down to the hook. If I have a 24" leader, this lets the gill swim in a 4 foot circle around the wieght and 24" from the bottom. It seems to me that the frisky little gills are faster swimmers than a big flathead and are maybe outrunning them. Are these leaders to long??? should I not use a splitshot and let the egg come all the way down to the hook? I know its hard for me to catch a live gill with my hands when they are in the cooler!!